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Stabbing Death on Oxford Street.

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anotheoldgit | 11:58 Wed 28th Dec 2011 | News
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http://www.dailymail....volved-gang-feud.html

Yet another killing on the streets of our capital this time on a crowded Oxford Street.

Even while medics are tending the stabbed gang member, other chose to attack the police, why?

The Guardian reports that /// Scotland Yard has denied deploying a Taser to control youths at the scene of the fatal stabbing of a teenager in front of shoppers on Oxford Street during the Boxing Day sales. ///

Why do Scotland Yard see the need to defend the fact that one police officer was seen to draw his Taser gun?

Even if he found it necessary to use it, he could not be criticised in such circumstances, that is what they are for, that being to immobilise such unruly an violent individuals that refuse to respect authority in such circumstances.

It is time these thugs learnt that they can't just do as they like.

http://www.guardian.c...eet-police-deny-taser
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I only know what I see on the TV. I hadn't heard that the thugs responsible for the Salford murder were white. Has this been confirmed?
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Gromit

You seem intent on turning my thread on the Oxford Street murder, to one on the Salford murder.

It is becoming more and more obvious that this crime suits your own particular agenda more.

This being the case, why do you not enter a thread of your own, dealing specifically with the Salford murder, that is of course if you find it much easier to condemn a white killer, than one with a black skin?
elgreco - from BBC website "The gunman was described as white, in his mid-20s, and of slim build.

He was said to be wearing a grey top and his accomplice was described as of heavier build and wearing a black jacket"

a 16 year old and a 17 year old have been arrested and today a 3rd man has been arrested.

My knowledge on gang culture is very limited but with two young lads being involved I wouldn't be surprised if this was some kind of gang initiation, but that's just me speculating.

To answer AOG's initial post again, if the police didn't use a taser and were said to have, they will of course clarify, it could be as simple as that. Any gang members will try and intimidate the police in such circumastances, that's what I'd expect. I don't know the regulations behind the use of tasers, I'm sure there are some so that they're not used willy nilly and we can't be sure of the full story.
Problem is, they CAN do what they like. What is there to stop them?
There is a board of enquiry for the police force in the case of any misconduct etc.
// if you find it much easier to condemn a white killer, than one with a black skin? //

I don't. I have alreay written that the Oxford Street murder should be caught and sent to prison for a long time. I MRI e in tour many replies you have failed to condemn the Salford murder.
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Gromit

I reserve the right not to speculate on another murder, since my thread was regarding the Oxford street killing, and for the fact that I refuse to be drawn down your usual diversionary alleyways.

I repeat please feel free to debate the Salford murder, by starting a thread of your own on that very subject.
Thanks Pa__ul.
Sorry anotheroldgit. I was only searching for confirmation. Didn't mean to hi-jack your thread. You and Gromit can go back to pistols at dawn now. Happy New Year to all
AOG

It is a shame you are unable to codemn the murderers of the young man in Salford.

As you wrote about sp, Surely this gives out a certain message?
Just seen AOG's rather embarrassing post re: Dizzee Rascal.

Lesson of the day? Avoid making comments about people you know stuff all about, as it will highlight your ignorance.

Especially when talking about a highly respect Mercury Music Prize-winning songwriter.

Anyways - back to the point - the OP raised this thread because he thinks blacks are not criticised enough (he has frequently posted rants that there aren't enough black villains on film and in tv shows).

When you understand that, you realise why this thread requires our contempt, rather than our contemplation.

(Btilliant line that - made it up myself).
why is it such a problem for the police to stop and search any youngster, black white or otherwise??? surely a set jail sentance of 10 years for ANY person carrying a knife, and 25 years for anyone with a gun would soon turn the british isles back to the british isles, and not a copy of bad land America. Just make it law, publicise it strongly. I got nicked for no seat belt last year, the copper was hiding behind his car, which was parked on the pavement, using a pair of binoculers to catch motorists.
the next week,just along the road, they found a girl dead by her bicycle, knocked down by a hit and run driver. they caught him, he was an axe murderer from the eastern block, who had been let out after 6 years.and our police didn't know he was in this country. Someone in this country needs to get their arse into gear and sort out right from wrong.
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sp1814

/// Lesson of the day? Avoid making comments about people you know stuff all about, as it will highlight your ignorance.///

/// Especially when talking about a highly respect Mercury Music Prize-winning songwriter. ///

Seems like I and others know enough already, of this 'highly respected' person.

http://www.omgmusic.c...at-road-rage-incident

http://www.mirror.co....noia-115875-22455551/

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