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Labour Spin at Conference
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Any one who thought the new leader might get rid of spin must be bitterly disappointed following that leader's speech at conference today.
The speech itself was full of buzz words and slogans and vague spending commitments ... did Gordon Brown not have "fiscal rules" which he oft trumpeted but dumped when things got tough and ended up like every previous Labour government taxing and spending?
One of the party faithful afterwards came up with a beauty which was new to me when he said the speech did not contain any policy proposals but "direction of travel indicators" Can anyone explain that one?
It seems they have not learned the lesson that the previous lot under Blair/Brown were completely seen through and busted. It is no good coming up with the same old stuff but calling it something else.
The speech itself was full of buzz words and slogans and vague spending commitments ... did Gordon Brown not have "fiscal rules" which he oft trumpeted but dumped when things got tough and ended up like every previous Labour government taxing and spending?
One of the party faithful afterwards came up with a beauty which was new to me when he said the speech did not contain any policy proposals but "direction of travel indicators" Can anyone explain that one?
It seems they have not learned the lesson that the previous lot under Blair/Brown were completely seen through and busted. It is no good coming up with the same old stuff but calling it something else.
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Do you have a Mortgage em?
If so you may have Gordon Brown to thank for still having a roof over your head.
Bailing out the banks was a very brave move with the money that was involved and he gathered a global response to rescue the banks.
I strongly suspeck the Tories would not have had the nerve to do it with their No state intervention philosophy.
If that had happened and banks had failed their investors would have looked to recoup assets - your mortgage and mine.
You wouldn't have been able to get another because none of the banks were lending because they hadn't got the money.
I have no doubt that Gordon Brown was not a nice man to work for and he's certainly not TV friendly but he was in the right place at the right time and saved our bacon.
Not that he'll get the credit for it.
the Tories are still trying to blame him for them problem - ignoring the fact that at the time Cameron was trying to remove regulations from the city not add them!
As for Blair - No Tory could ever have deliverred peace in Nortern Ireland - they were too fixed on "winning".
Had he not been drawn into Iraq he'd be on the list of all time greats.
If so you may have Gordon Brown to thank for still having a roof over your head.
Bailing out the banks was a very brave move with the money that was involved and he gathered a global response to rescue the banks.
I strongly suspeck the Tories would not have had the nerve to do it with their No state intervention philosophy.
If that had happened and banks had failed their investors would have looked to recoup assets - your mortgage and mine.
You wouldn't have been able to get another because none of the banks were lending because they hadn't got the money.
I have no doubt that Gordon Brown was not a nice man to work for and he's certainly not TV friendly but he was in the right place at the right time and saved our bacon.
Not that he'll get the credit for it.
the Tories are still trying to blame him for them problem - ignoring the fact that at the time Cameron was trying to remove regulations from the city not add them!
As for Blair - No Tory could ever have deliverred peace in Nortern Ireland - they were too fixed on "winning".
Had he not been drawn into Iraq he'd be on the list of all time greats.
The peace as you call it in NI, wasn't solely down to Blair, I think you will find that John Major had quite a bit to do with it, and the negotiations had been going a lot longer than that, but you know people believe what they want. If it's Tory/Labour/Lib Dem bashing go ahead, i really don't care for any of them. I do know that the country has a mountain of debt, and that wasn't solely the preserve of the banks, though they certainly did their bit. You have to also wonder at people many of whom took out massive loans, mortgages, knowing full well they would struggle to repay them, not thinking ahead, rather like New Labour, spend, spend, until it's all gone,
it's like hiding under the blanket when the debt collector comes around.
The Tories wouldn't have had any choice in bailing out the banks, same as New Labour, there was and is too much money tied up in them to let them fail. As to many of the problems associated with immigration in the last 13 years, i sit that squarely at labours doorstep. That has caused more division than just about anything, and you don't have to be a so called right wing Daily Mail reader to see just all the problems that have come along in the wake of Britains open door policy.
Most of the policies that the Tories have put in place, or had to in recent days, would have been put in place by Labour, only they don't shout from the rooftops about that. You look through articles, and read manifesto's boring i know, there are such similarities with what they had planned to do, with what is happening now.
Blair is a vain and now extremely wealthy man, on the back of the terrible war he and his crony Bush got Britain and America into. For that he should have gone to jail.
it's like hiding under the blanket when the debt collector comes around.
The Tories wouldn't have had any choice in bailing out the banks, same as New Labour, there was and is too much money tied up in them to let them fail. As to many of the problems associated with immigration in the last 13 years, i sit that squarely at labours doorstep. That has caused more division than just about anything, and you don't have to be a so called right wing Daily Mail reader to see just all the problems that have come along in the wake of Britains open door policy.
Most of the policies that the Tories have put in place, or had to in recent days, would have been put in place by Labour, only they don't shout from the rooftops about that. You look through articles, and read manifesto's boring i know, there are such similarities with what they had planned to do, with what is happening now.
Blair is a vain and now extremely wealthy man, on the back of the terrible war he and his crony Bush got Britain and America into. For that he should have gone to jail.
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