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need to avoid my driving license being revoked after 11 months!!!

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sssg4 | 13:36 Tue 27th Sep 2005 | Motoring
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Hi,

I passed my driving test last October after so much hard work and hard earned money. Anywaym after being 2 hrs late for an interview back in June I failed to slow down to 50 on a dual carriageway and got my first speeding ticket. Anyway, I recently received another for doing 36 in a 30. I am yet to return the form (or should I say my partner is) as I understand that 6 points under 2 years of driving means your license is revoked. I simply can not believe it. I am not a reckless driver and rely on my car for so much. I need to appeal against this decision and avoid the further 3 points on my license. Please please help!!!  

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It looks like you'll be back to L plates for a while and have to do the test again. http://www.thinkroadsafety.gov.uk/advice/newdrivers01.ht m

Since you are not trying to plead innocent to any of the charges, it is unlikely you'll be let off on ay compassionate grounds. If your most recent 3 points is the result of a speed camera that took a picture of the rear of the vehicle, you could possibly get your partner to say they were driving and take those points. You could maybe question the calibration of the instruments on the speed camera, but I suspect you'll be back to L's.
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Yep the only way is to get someone else to agree to be named on the NIP. There is no room for discretion on the part of the magistrate, 6 points with 2 years of new license = licence revoked. Assuming you get your partner to agree to take the points, drive like mother Theresa from now on!
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Well said mdoo98. No sympathy here. As for others suggesting that someone lies to pick up the points - I find that incredible.
if you are anything like me you will not remember the day in question.are you the only driver.is it possible someone else was driving.was the camera in front or behind .do they have a picture of the driver.or a picture of a car like yours.cloning is not unheard of and therefore is a possibility.you could ask to see the evidense.lots of things but depends how the alleged offense was detected.

 have been driving for over 20 years with no points and I can not feel sympathy for someone who has reached 6 points in less than a year. I spend a lot of time driving and always keep to  the speed limit (I occasionaly go over the limit on the motorway).

I know that this sounds hard - but I have seen too many accidents, and too many innocent pedestrians hurt by people going over the limit.

You were not going to get to your interview if you were two hours late - so you would have been better stopping the car and ringing to explain why you were late.

Maybe you do not think that going 20% over the limit is reckless - but the limit is there for a reason - now you have at least a year to think about it

 

THIS IS A COPY OF MY PREVIOUS ANSWER - BANNED FOR NO REASON I CAN SEE - LESS ONE LINE ABOUT AN EXPERIENCE THAT CAUSES ME TO BE UPSET BY SEEING PEOPLE SPEEDING

iF THIS ANSWER IS TO BE BANNED CAN i KNOW WHY AS I CAN NOT SEE ANYTHING WRONG OTHER THAN IT IS NOT WHAT SSSG4 WANTS TO HEAR

The very idea of this revocation is to try to get new drivers to understand that, having been granted the privilege of driving unsupervised on public roads they have a number of responsibilities towards other road users. 

Nothing in your question suggests that you are not guilty of this offence, so your choices are very limited:

Refusal to provide details of the driver renders you liable to a fine and three points on your licence.

Identifying the driver as somebody else is unlikely to be detected. Whilst not technically perjury (because the statement was not made under oath) there is almost certainly a clause in the Road Traffic Act which prescribes a punishment for making a false statement in such circumstances, and this punishment will undoubtedly include penalty points. (And in any case, why should you expect somebody else to take the rap for your dangerous stupidity).

The one hope you do have (and it is a very slim hope) is that you can plead with the magistrates to disqualify you for a short period for this latest single offence alone. Magistrates have the power to impose driving disqualification for any offence which is endorseable. If they do this, they do not award points on your licence, so you would remain at three points and not have your licence revoked. You will have to serve a short disqualification (perhaps 14 to 28 days).

To go down this route you will need firstly to refuse to accept the fixed penalty notice and instead choose to appear in court where you will need to enter a guilty plea. If you are to stand any chance at all, you will need to employ a solicitor to plead on your behalf. You will not be entitled to legal aid and will almost certainly have to pay a contribution towards prosecution costs (about �40-�50) whatever the outcome.

Your solicitor will probably advise you, however, that this course is most unlikely to succeed.




u may have been given lots advice but after reading your statement about being 2 hrs late for your interview. can i just say, IT'S BETTER TO BE LATE IN ONE LIFE THEN EARLY IN ANOTHER.

"I anm not a reckless driver"

Neither was the chap who I was called out to on a motorbike who had hit the side of a car. I used to do recovery, and got job of two bikes. One had hit the side and flown over the car, one had hit the side and gone under it. Both dead...... One was a police motorcyclist. That was down to speed. Sometimes it pays to slow down and think.

Did you get the job BTW?

Do you have any contact with some1 from another country if so ask them to say they where driveing because england is one of the few countrys working on a points system they will only be fined no points. So give addreses detail of jo blogs from lets say russia. As u where not the driver at the time and have gave the name and addy of the driver its now up to the court to locate and fine named driver from a small unheard of town 50 miles south of moscow.

I would not recomend any fraud to any1. Just im sure you have learnt you lesson without the need to lose your licence or pay a fine.

Are you trying to say these are the only 2 times you have ever sped in your brief 11months of driving?

Were you not taught to keep attention to speed?

2hrs late shows a lack of preperation for what ever reason and you were unlikely to make up the time by speeding.

There simply is no excuse i am not sorry to say and you will have to take your ban.

Any implication to let someone else take the blame is just immoral.

"so much hard work and hard earned money" and you threw it all away.

"dangerous stupidity"? "need to calm down"? "find it invredible that people get friends to take points"? you people have no idea do you? try living in the real world once in a while.. This dude failed to slow to 50 on a dual carriage way.. and was going 36 in a 30.. how the fc uk is that dangerous stupidity? As for the motorcycle story is concerned, it has no relevance what so ever to this thread. a bad driver will pull out on a motorbike, not a fast driver. i'm a biker and a car driver myself. 

as far as your licence goes, unfortunitely you will have it revoked ( yes revoked, for all you people who think you know it all..there is no ban) this isn't really a problem apart from the obvious fact that you will have to pay for the privilage of getting your licence back. get revoked, book your tests, pass them, back on the road.. can all be done in under 2 weeks.

were you people all wrapped in cotton wool all your lives? People are donating their licence points in a daily basis.. the penalties for speeding in this country are far too severe and people need their jobs. stop whining at  us and go and bother god to pray our souls be saved from eternal damnation

The dangerous drivers are the ones that think that sticking to the speed limit means going 25 in a 30, just to be sure, the people that only see vehicles wider than 1m, the people that think the oil/deisel leak on their van isn't much of a problem, and the people who believe that because they passed their test 40 years ago that must make them a better driver than the person who passed their test 1 year ago, who is obviously a "wreckless" "dangerous" "stupid" "immoral" whipper snapper because he was driving 6 miles an hour over the limit.

get with the funking program.

Maybe in future you'll take a little more care and consideration when driving! Speed limits are there for a reason and sadly speeding does amount to being reckless. I come across many inexperienced drivers who say they are very good drivers, then leave the car park in clouds of tyre smoke. This law was introduced to try to get inexperienced motorists to think of the consequences of bad driving behavior, it's unfortuanate but it looks as though you'll be learning the hard way. Since when did a 30 limit mean 36?

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