corporal punishment in schools

[zzxxee]

if they bought this back would you be for or against this?
and why?

[boxtops]

When I was at school it was the cane for the boys or the slipper for the girls. It was used as a deterrent, very rarely as a punishment. It didn't do us any harm. Children could only by punished by the headmaster and it wasn't an instant decision so couldn't be done by a vindictive or sadistic teacher. They use to throw chalk and board-rubbers too, if we were not paying attention. It was just part of life. So many youngsters don't get any boundaries set for them, they do what they like at school and at home. Some discipline is a good thing, IMHO.

[zzxxee]

i agree i dont agree with the cane being used willy nilie, but the thought was just enough for kids to behave i think eachers today have no authority which is why kids run rings round them !!!

[zzxxee]

*teachers

[Sqad]

Boxtops....will you marry me?........Well written and I couldn't put it better myself.

BUT.......wait for the flack from the modern parents.

[B00]

The only problem is now that if you show any kind of physical violence to kids nowadays, they'll just promptly turn round and knife you!

Failing that, they'll go home to their parents and furious Chavs will be beating at a teachers door ready to pummel you for daring to chastise their kids.

[zzxxee]

true boo probably the same chavs who slap their kids at home for not going down the off licence for mum and dad !!!!

[boxtops]

Aw - gee thanks sqad, it would have to be polygamous tho, so I will have to think about it. I will be out in Menorca in November......

Yes B00 - or (as happened to me) they say "you can't do that, I know my rights" - yeah, right - as OH always responds, "you can't have rights without responsibilities". That's one of the aspects missing at the moment, they (and a fair few adults too) feel no accountability for any of their actons or their effects on other people.

[Sqad]

boxtops...Menorca in November? You are pushing it for the weather (sorry zzxxee)

[B00]

Corporal punishment wouldn't work on todays kids, as they aren't disciplined at home. If they were brought up with a strong sense of values, they wouldn't so half the things they do at school anyway, and they'd know fine well that if they pushed it too far at school, they'd be punished, then once again when they got home!

[boxtops]

Yes I know sqad, but I bought a dirt cheap timeshare week in Arenal for week 46, last year. We visited last year and we were very lucky, the weather was really good (but of course everything else was shut). We're coming again this year but after that, we're planning to give it back. Not worth the travel and maintenance cost at that time of year!

[zzxxee]

well what alternative is there to bring order into a classroom????
cos whatever schools do now does not work......FACT!!

[boxtops]

agree zzxxee and with B00. My neighbours' kids are brilliant, as are the youngsters in OH's family. They have boundaries set (and implemented!) at home and they do well at school. It can be done!

[4getmenot]

against. a parent isnt allowed to hit their children so why should teachers. It would stop alot of kids being naughty but it would also make a whole new batch of law suits

[RATTER15]

I was often caned at school, It didn't do me any lasting harm and it certainly done me no good, it was never a deterrent. The same as the death penalty is no deterrent in the USA, I'm certainly not a modern parent but I can see and understand why it should not come back, it is very difficult to decide who should be caned, I wouldn't want one of my kids caned for hit with a slipper over something that may never have happened or he/she has been lied about. I have 3 children, now adults, I never had the need to slap or smack them, my parents never hit me, I don't see the need for it! but not totally opposed to it either. At the end of the day if children have respect for their parent then this situation should never arise.

[sara3]

"todays kids" .. what a sweeping statement.

[zzxxee]

work how schools work today
little johnny bunks off
little johnny gets caught what do the school do?????
THEY EXCLUDE LITTLE JOHNNY
giving him more time off for the rule he broke in the first place !!!
omg i could scream !!!

[Dris]

I got the belt in school to the extent it left the inside of my wrists with red welts for days.Looking back I thinks its barbaric to think teachers controlled children by violence.I once got the belt for spraying perfume on the boy in front-he wasnt bothered but when he went up to her she asked why he smelt of perfume and he told her -I was given the belt at the age of 16-she quite simply was mentally ill and didnt teach again after that term.
The only thing receiving the belt did to me was reinforcing my belief that violence doesnt get results.
Should I did that to someone today I would get lifted and charged and quite rightly so.
I smacked my children as in rather than putting their hand into the fire to let them see it would get burnt type scenarios but not just because I couldnt control my own temper.

[jno]

nope, don't believe in teaching children that violence is a solution to problems, never smacked jno jnr and he's grown up okay.

[RATTER15]

Teachers aren't even permitted to put a sticky plaster on a child's scuffed knee apparently, why should a teacher be permitted to deliver corporal punishment.

[zzxxee]

im not a beliver in caneing kids, but all i know is somthing has to be done because schools just dont have the respect they once commanded in how pupils view their teachers