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NJOK | 13:30 Tue 11th Sep 2007 | News
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The grandmother of Ellie Lawrenson, the five-year-old who was mauled to death by a dog banned in Britain, was today cleared of the child's killing.

Jacqueline Simpson, 45, was acquitted of manslaughter by gross neglect by the seven men and five women jury at Liverpool crown court, following a six-day trial.

During the trial, Ms Simpson denied failing to take proper care of Ellie by allowing the pit bull terrier - which had previously attacked family members and other dogs - in the house when she knew it was dangerous.

Ms Simpson was babysitting Ellie at her home in St Helens, Merseyside, early on January 1 when the dog attacked the girl, causing 72 injuries, primarily to her head and neck.

The dog, called Reuben, was owned by Ellie's uncle Kiel Simpson, and was banned under the Dangerous Dogs Act.

The court heard that, in the hours before the attack, Ms Simpson had drunk two bottles of wine, taken anti-depressants and smoked cannabis.

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what was her punishment then?
Its a Green light for pit bull owners to leave the dogs with children.


If ever a case was clear cut, this was it

How many more Ellie's will it take to die before ''real action'' is taken.


Absolutely shocking


While there is not doubt she was "guilty" (she never denied it) one could argue she will live with the guilt for the rest of her life. Putting her in prison will not solve a lot.

Mind you, she is typical of the low life scum that are happy to spend their days in a drunken and drugged stupor when she was supposed to be looking after a young child.

But the real question is why the dogs were still allowed in and around the home when they had already bitten two people.

For that the whole family have to take the blame.
She denied manslaughter through gross negligence and was found not guilty.

Thats it i'm afraid gaga
I'm sorry NJOK, what's your question?

Tut, tut.
Agree 100% with your post Vehelpfulguy.


Somehow tho, i do not think the family will feel to remorseful.

They probably mourned the dogs death {put down} more than Ellie's


Scum
Surely the authorities should also share the blame after all the breed is banned. If we had more coppers on the streets a) the dog may well have been seen and b) maybe she would have found it harder to get drugs.
The real guilt lies with the owner of the dog though
I'm very impressed that all you can read a few sentences and realise that she was guilty

The jury who sat through who knows how many hours of evidence and argument and eventually acquitted her must simply have lacked your obvious common sense.

I don't know we bother with trials - we can simply have a few points posted up here and cut straight to the sentencing!
I wish i would of been on that jury ! ! wed still be out deliberating ...till i talked sense in to the other jurors , unbelievable outcome ! : (
And it doesn't occur to you for a moment that they might have thought the same and then had access to information that you don't have that changed their minds?

In short you don't think it's possible they might be better informed than you?
They were all guilty.
most of all for having a dog they knew was banned. These dogs are used for one thing only and thats fighting, which is banned in this country any way.
The only person who would have been grieving for the dog was the owner who had it for one of two reasons. To fight or make him look hard.
It's a sad thing that paople still have these dogs either to make money or because it makes them some how feel hard. Dogs do what they are taught to do. So what was that **** of an owner teaching it to do. Should he not be in the docks as well as the grandmother?
Thing is, she let the dog into her house, knowing it was dangerous,Guilty in the first inst,

Being drunk, (you can't put it any other way), and under the influence of a drug. and at the same time in charge of a dangerous weapon, (the dog), Guilty in the second inst.

This woman was, and should have been found guilty, as should her son for having an illegal dog.
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And yet the dog - a key witness, if not an accomplice - was shot in the head by a police marksman without trial.

Political correctness and British justice gone mad etc etc.

This country is going to the dogs... er... down the pan.

I agree that she is svum. 10 joints a day???? What sort of Grandmother is that??

But as said, what good will prison do her? Her ounishment will be better in society everytime she sees a smiling child will remind her of what a loser she is.

(PS Lonnie, Happy new Year!!!)
Jake-the-peg.


Whats your take on it then, seeing everyone else believes that it was an injustice her getting off.


Lonnie explained it extremely well if you ask me.

I appreciate that the jury found her not guilty on a manslaughter charge, but what message is this sending out to the chav pit bull owners. And it makes a mockery of the dangerous dogs act.

She addmitted she new the dog was banned in the uk if you believe what you read, so one must make an assumption that she realised that the dog was em ''dangerous''.

It was more than likely some legal loophole that saved her from her rightful punishment


Prison


Shadow.

She won't give a jack sh!te about being spotted in society.

Scum like these do not know the meaning of the word ''REMORSE''

I'll go further more and say, that it would'nt come as a surprise if the family get caught again with an illegal pit bull, after all, a dole check will only go to far, they need more income!!
On a completely different take, why on earth did the childs mother leave her with her grandmother? The mother must have known that the grandmother was a dope head with a drinking problem. This amount of substance abuse is very difficult to hide, and I would suspect that the mother knew full well that the grandmother has drug and alcohol problems.

There is no way on earth I would ever leave my kids with anyone who I knew had these type of problems, especially with a dangerous dog around.
And did you see that swaggering clown the dog's owner?
What Rubbish.
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laurence, I think jake's point was that the jury in this case have access to all of the information.

They jury are made up of ordinary people, not politicians or footballers or any other select group. They represent society. They're selected randomly.

Unlike us, they don't get their information from snippets of news or tabloid newspapers. They sit there for days and days soaking listening to all of the evidence. Then, from that, they make a decision.

If they'd only seen the news that you had, I dare say they'd think it was an injustice for the woman to be let off. But they've heard the whole story. You haven't.

That doesn't mean miscarriages of justice never happen. Just that it's perhaps slightly arrogant to say that you're a better judge of right and wrong than your fellow citizens. Citizens who have actually sat through the trial.
Whats the difference between a negligent working class grandmother from liverpool and negligent middle class professional parents from leicester..

Oh i forgot the words lowlife scum..

Stereotypes are still the norm on here i see..

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