Is Everyone Who Disagrees With Abortion Evil?

[vetuste_ennemi]

I've just been told as much.
I have a subsidiary question: why are some people (whether through bigotry, lack of education, or poverty of imagination I don't know) unable to accept that people who disagree with them may do so for honorable and decent reasons?

[birdie1971]

Theland

Nice to hear from you. Any chance you could respond to why Jesus (and by extension, the bible) doesn't condemn slavery? You seem to have abandoned the other thread for some reason...

[vetuste_ennemi]

I trust you, Birdie.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Me to self, try to keep up!

[mibn2cweus]

I have no issue with those who voice their opposition to mindless abortions but rather with those who oppose any and all abortions, (regardless of circumstances), mindlessly. And it is not so much that one opposes abortion as the manner and lengths they are willing to go to impose their opposition to abortion upon others by providing living proof that abortion is not necessarily the most thoughtless thing one can choose to do not only to those who have not yet taken their first breath. No child deserves to be born into such a world.

[Jackdaw33]

Simples, Birdie. The word slave in the Bible has a different meaning to the present one. It simply meant servant.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Thank you for the clarification, MIBs.

[mibn2cweus]

The best we can do is the least we should do.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Aphorisms are us.

[Jenniferprince]

No, it is good to reject abortion

[mibn2cweus]

//Aphorisms are us.//

This one came to me in a fortune cookie - "A clear conscious sign of bad memory."

[beso]

We live on a very overpopulated planet. Insisting that every conception goes on to be born would further compromise the situation and put at risk the welfare of the already born.

All life has been a continuum back to when the self replication began. Choosing conception as a special point of "the beginning of life" is entirely arbitrary. One could equally argue that letting an egg go unfertilized is denying an opportunity for a life.

[birdie1971]

Jackdaw33 - "Simples, Birdie. The word slave in the Bible has a different meaning to the present one. It simply meant servant."

No it didn't. That is simply wrong. Having read the bible, the word "slave" means the same then as it does today. It means a person who is either forced into or born into bondage. This person may be housed, fed, watered and clothed but they receive no money in exchange for their labour and they absolutely cannot leave the 'service' of their own volition. The word "slavery" is not a an ancient word for "low paid job". It means then what it means now - forced labour.

If you have evidence that contradicts my interpretation, please feel free to share it.

By the way, I've already had this debate with 'Theland' and he couldn't square this particular circle either. He ended up admitting that the bible fails to condemn slavery. Then he disappeared. Understandable really - when, after much research, it turns out that your holy scriptures fail to denounce a barbaric practice, what else can you do but go silent?

[wildwood]

I must admit to being against the general trend here. I am not catholic (anymore) but vehemently against abortion, as used in another form of contraception. It is a different story when the mother's life is endangered or the pregnancy the result of rape, where the pregnancy is usually terminated at a very early stage.
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[Cloverjo]

Not everyone who is against abortion is evil. However, the extreme anti-abortionists who threaten and intimidate the nurses and doctors who carry out the procedure, and the unfortunate women who are about to go through it, are very nasty.
I don't know why they think it's better for a child to be born despite its parents being unable or unwilling to care for it. There can't be much worse in life than being an unwanted child.

[Cloverjo]

I hope that didn't read as if I thought the women who are going to have abortions are nasty. It was a clumsily written sentence.

[naomi24]

One answer to both questions. Not evil, but often distinctly ‘holier than thou’.

[wildwood]

A 10 week embryo is already a recognisable moving human being. Rather than being evil to oppose killing that pre-child, it is evil to abort it.

I've never protested against abortion or support any intimidation against those who do, but just feel it is wrong. Unfortunately, like most opinions, it is the radicals that get the attention and blacken subject's validity.

[birdie1971]

Jackdaw33

I don't suppose there's any chance you could answer my question to you (01:15 Thu 01st Oct 2015) about where you are getting your information regarding your definition of the word "slavery" as used in biblical times?

I am genuinely interested and would be grateful if you could elaborate.