Corbyn Wants Argentina To Have A Say In Running Falklands

[Zacs-Master]

And this is a fit man to run the Labour Party?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11833264/Jeremy-Corbyns-Falklands-plan-tantamount-to-surrender-to-Argentina-warns-wounded-veteran-Simon-Weston.html

[Zacs-Master]

That would have to be some meltdown. I wouldn't vote for Corbyn's if we turned into a third world economy.

[ToraToraTora]

I'm voting for Corbyn, I hope he is the leader of the opposition for a very long time.

[anotheoldgit]

mushroom25

/// all it would need then is for the economy to fare badly over the next few years - and already china is threatening to melt down and take the rest of the world with it - and an anti austerity corbyn will look very attractive to the electorate, ///

Oh so he comes with a magic wand does he, which is able to put the world right economically?

[New Judge]

There is no negotiations necessary with Argentina or anybody else over the governance of the Falkland Islands. Whatever occurred 200 or more years ago no Argentinians were ejected from the islands when the British last took control of them and it is difficult to formulate a reasoned argument for the current claim which is, to put it at its highest, highly dubious. However, none of that particularly matters. The people there now are British (whether they are “aboriginal” or not). They want to remain British (over 99% voted in favour of doing so a few years ago) and that is the end of the matter.

I visited the Falkland Islands in the early 1970s. This was at a time when few people could pick them out on a map and long before they became famous. The people I met there were fiercely British (far more so than many people in the UK today) and wished to remain so.

It’s not easy to understand what Mr Corbyn means when he speaks of “negotiation”. The joint sovereignty idea that he has will never work. The Argentinians will insist on populating the islands and it will lead to strife and civil unrest. Plainly, the idea is ridiculous.

It is quite true that many of Mr Corbyn’s supporters are young and easily (mis)led. Because they were not around in 1982 is scarcely reason enough for them to ignore history. As Simon Weston aptly states, to consider “negotiation” with Argentina over an issue over which they have no reasonable interest (other than relative geographical proximity) will betray Mr Weston as well as Baldric and his comrades who gave their all (over 300 making the ultimate sacrifice) to prevent the islands being taken by force. Of course many people, particularly youngsters recently out of 11 or 12 years of State education, will have been brainwashed in anti-Thatcher rhetoric. They will have been taught, no doubt, that the loss of life was entirely her fault and that the only way to resolve the issue (not that one exists) is appeasement. Well they should do as slapshot suggests - visit the islands, speak to the people there and after doing so consider whether they would like their homeland taken over by a foreign government who fancies it is theirs by right.

[-Talbot-]

And yet another thread were the righties will not listen to anything anti-thatcher... If she had protected the islands as she should have there would have been no invasion.

It is possible the Argies thought it was an invitation.
And anyone who thinks Thatcher gave a toss about military lives are seriously deluding themselves.


As to the question.
Corbyn Wants Argentina To Have A Say In Running Falklands...no way Jose!

[ToraToraTora]

Talbot , TGL wrote individually to the families of all those who died, did your man Blair do that? How could she have protected the islands pre invasion? you and your anti British mates would have spat out your organic peace muesli, F.F.S. you are still whining like a jumbo jet because we sank a war ship at war! Try and ignore your anti British schooling and do some research of your own.

[mushroom25]

//Oh so he comes with a magic wand does he, which is able to put the world right economically?//

no magic wand, but a glib plausibility for an electorate who may very well be battle weary from years of austerity conservatism.

[jim360]

Bit late in replying, as I've been out most of the last few hours -- but thanks AOG for a measured response to my points.

[jim360]

Just a shame that NJ had to come along and spoil it with his brainwashing crap. You'd be lucky even to learn about the Falklands War in History lessons, let alone get a distorted leftie view of it all (a view which, as presented by its opponents at least, would appear to be riddled with contradiction, on the face of it, since it would seem to criticise Thatcher for "abandoning" the islands and then criticising her for defending them once attacked... )

Anyway, as stated earlier I disagree with Corbyn on this. I can't see that there is anything to talk about. Perhaps there was, 180-odd years ago, but it's long since past and as long as the islanders want to remain British that seems to me to be an end of it.

[Jackdaw33]

Perhaps he thinks we should also hand over Gibraltar to Spain.

[Jackdaw33]

Oh, come on. Does hubby not realise that that means that the UK will be swamped by Aussies and Kiwis?

[Jackdaw33]

But what would we do with all those sheep? (Those from Wales need not reply).

[Togo]

//an electorate who may very well be battle weary from years of austerity conservatism. //

Corbyn has only been a candidate for a few weeks. The Tories have been in office for a matter of months. Look at the anguished, bitter, rhetoric from the echo chamber. Why are all socialist the least sociable people. Bit of a misnomer that .

[venator]

If corbyn is elected, it will be because of all the contenders, he is not out of the sad, failed Labour mould. Seeing Tony Bliar attack him ensures his victory!

Like many politicians, he was free to express extreme, even silly, ideas when there was no prospect of having to put them into practice.

If he becomes Leader, he will have to face up to the real world.

Of course, he would have a short reign, as the sad failures would conspire to stab him in the back.

[ludwig]

// Like many politicians, he was free to express extreme, even silly, ideas when there was no prospect of having to put them into practice.

If he becomes Leader, he will have to face up to the real world. //

Err no. Surely you mean 'If he becomes leader - that won't change'.

[Jackdaw33]

I have said this before but it is worth repeating. Even if Corbyn tops the poll, unless he can break through the 50% barrier on the first count he will lose. I say this because anyone who does not make him their first choice will probably make him last choice. If this is so I suspect we will end up with either Burnham of Mrs Balls.