What Makes Them Do It? Cecil The Lion From Zimbabwe's

[ladybirder]

National Park has been deliberately shot at with a bow and arrow and hours later when that hadn't killed him he was shot and killed by an American dentist. The killing itself is bad enough but the repercussions for Cecil's offspring are dire.
http://news.sky.com/story/1526549/us-dentist-paid-50k-to-behead-famous-lion

[ladybirder]

Rsvp @19.50. Cecil was collared I saw the chap from the Reserve saying so on the news today. And that Cecil was still the leader of his pride and the way he was lured away by those who had taken a bribe from the Dentist! All from the TV News. I haven't made it all up.

[rsvp]

Sorry Ladybirder but not quite sure what you mean? Are you saying I'm doubting you?

[ladybirder]

Yes I suppose I am. It was you saying
// if indeed Cecil was collared which I've been led to believe was the case. \\ that made me think you were doubting me when I'd said he was collared. If it turns out he's not, blame Sky News:-)

[rsvp]

wasn't doubting what you'd heard at all LB - collars come off occasionally and there is a possibility (if no data had been received recently) that this was the case. Personally I think that very unlikely but am just trying to be fair. (even though I want to string the guy up and slowly roast him)

[rsvp]

It's a fairly big jobbie - thick leather with small box and I whilst I agree it may not have been visible from a distance Dive Buddy (and have stated this earlier) - the point is we don't know that it wasn't and as it appears to have been pretty common knowledge that Cecil was collared then one has to wonder. Perhaps the mighty hunter wasn't close enough to make it out.

[ladybirder]

According to the warden or whatever he was at the reserve the barsteward had tried to destroy the collar but had failed so they must be pretty robust I'm glad to say. It must have fallen off when he hacked Cecil's head off!

[rsvp]

Lady birder doesn't that strike you as a little strange? I wouldn't 'try to destroy the collar' and then leave it for someone to find - I make sure no-one would ever see it again.

[rsvp]

Dive Buddy of course it's a legal issue as well as a moral one - and Ian Brockenhurst (I believe that's the white hunters name) has some very serious questions to answer - one of them being 'did you sanction and drive a vehicle dragging bait out of Hwange National Park onto private property and in the company of your client with the express purpose of allowing the lion you baited to be shot'. Therefore the client is culpable too - he should be aware of the rules and regs governing his 'sport'. Don't know how familiar you are with Zimbabwe DB but there may be a lot of involvement from unexpected sources.

[ladybirder]

Agreeing with Piers Morgan here.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3177611/PIERS-MORGAN-d-love-hunting-one-day-Dr-Walter-Palmer-killer-dentist-stuff-mount-office.html

[rsvp]

DB I lived there for many years and have close family contacts with the safari industry still - have to say that nothing that happens there surprises me. And btw - you carry on shooting for the pot, I'm all for it - so much better than the way a lot of our food reaches the table.

[rsvp]

Just followed the link ladybirder and on it it states that the dentist paid (Ithink it was) 50,000 dollars to hunt and shoot a lion called Cecil. Be interesting to know if he knew it was Cecil before he engaged the white hunter. If he did that opens up a whole new can of worms.

[rsvp]

Have to disagree DB (and we were getting on so well!) but I believe it is a moral issue too - just because an action is legal it doesn't make it moral. For example, battery farming is legal but is it moral? I don't think so.

[ladybirder]

Battery farming is illegal now surely?

Anyway, the Guardian says it was a Spanish man who shot Cecil!
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/26/zimbabwe-hunt-spaniard-accused-of-killing-cecil-the-lion
More news in the morning I expect.
Off to bed. Good night rsvp and db. x

[rsvp]

maybe DB but I'm hopeful Mr Brockenwhatnot's Bushman Safaris Company is finished, his son doesn't have a great future either and his friendly neighbour Mr Ndlovu is in for a rough ride too. Although if Mr Ndlovu got his land via Mr Mugabe then he's okay. Nice chatting, am off to bye byes now.

[rsvp]

It's a term Ladybirder - chickens are still kept in similar conditions. However, nite nite to you too, sleep well