Ok It's Taking The **** But Why Do They Rise To It?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/32582683
Why does Islam take itself sooo seriously?

[mushroom25]

1ozzy, just from him not posessing the beard "as big as a man's fist" as required for the honouring of The Prophet, probably what we might call a moderate. nevertheless, clearly subservient to his religion, as Islam demands (one definition of the word islam is "submit").

[naomi24]

1ozzy , As one ‘moderate’ Muslim recently said, “referring to me as a ‘moderate’ is an insult” – or words to that effect. Islam cannot be compared to any other religion.

[1ozzy]

Thanks for the explanation Naomi.
I don't dislike you yet ;-)

[naomi24]

Mushroom, Islam means 'submission'.

[naomi24]

1ozzy, //I don't dislike you yet //

?

[1ozzy]

Ok, I have some very close friends that are Muslims, they are nothing like what I read here. They are decent law abiding, thoughtful citizens that would never put anyone in the position of feeling afraid.
I do think that tarring everyone with the same brush is a form of "extremism" in itself.

[1ozzy]

Naomi, you and I have agreed to disagree more than once on this subject.
I accept your position, just don't agree with it.

Mrs Oz has just placed dinner on the table, so I'm going.

Night all.

[naomi24]

1ozzy, oh, I see. I never understood why disagreement in non-personal discussion results in personal animosity.... but for some it appears to.

Enjoy your dinner.

[1ozzy]

I did, thank you Naomi
Maybe you didn't see the little "smiley" at the end of my comment.
Or maybe you do not understand the "Aussie sense of humour".
Either way, I hold no animosity towards yourself.
Just disagree with your "one mold fits all" outlook on certain subjects.

[ToraToraTora]

I know a few muslims and all that praying on the train cobblers is cobblers. There is provision for missing prescribed prayer times for reasons of practicality, as there is for fasting during Ramadan for example. So this guy was an attention seeking idiot.

[andy-hughes]

TTT, from the description given, the individual sounds like a convert - and converts are usually the ones who like to make a big deal out of letting everyone else know their new-found faith - attention-seeking behaviour as you say.

[naomi24]

1ozzy, I don’t think one mould fits all, but I do know that people who consider Islam to be simply a religion like any other don’t understand Islam.

[ToraToraTora]

In all fairness naomi, I am pretty much like that. As all religion is in comprehensible to me I find it very difficult to understand though I am grateful to Andy in this and past threads has made me understand a lot better that muslims have their religion deeply woven into their soul more so than say an enthusiastic Christian.

[andy-hughes]

Thanks Tora - appreciated.

[naomi24]

TTT, //I am grateful to Andy in this and past threads has made me understand a lot better that muslims have their religion deeply woven into their soul more so than say an enthusiastic Christian.//

Dubious reliability. Andy-Hughes has formulated his own opinions, but by his own admission his scant knowledge of Islam emanates solely from media sources and from knowing one Muslim personally.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //Dubious reliability. Andy-Hughes has formulated his own opinions, but by his own admission his scant knowledge of Islam emanates solely from media sources and from knowing one Muslim personally. //

Your point is a fair one, but that does not mean that the information I have offered, and which Tora has received, is not accurate.

I have scant knowledge of the world's physiology, but I can offer a fact that the earth is round, and this is still a true fact.

[naomi24]

//I can offer a fact that the earth is round//

It would be difficult to get that one wrong.

[Alex99]

You don’t expect to stumble over Muslims praying in a stairwell at a football ground midway through a Cup tie - will the next demand be prayer rooms at Premier League grounds ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-3043217/Scousers-Anfield-worship-shrine-Shankly-not-Allah-Almighty-surprising-Muslims-praying-stadium-stairwell.html

[naomi24]

Praying for their team to win I expect.