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Does This Make Me Racist?
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A question in another section has prompted me to stick my head above the parapet with this one.
I am a fairly frequent hospital in-patient and have encountered fellow patients of all races and colours. I accept their religious differences, dietary needs etc and get along with them all. The hospital I attend is in an area with a large Pakistani population
One thing that really gets my goat up is the preferential treatment often given to Pakistani women. Here are two examples. Read them and tell me if I am being racist or am I in the right to feel aggrieved? In both examples, the women in question could speak English.
1. Visiting is restricted to 2 persons and visiting time is 6pm - 8pm. I had two visitors, as did all other patients, except a Pakistani woman who had SIX visitors, not including a screaming baby. At 8pm, all the visitors left, apart from the Asians. At 9pm yet another one turned up bearing numerous foil cartons of curry which they proceeded to eat around the bed. When I had a quiet word with a nurse she told me SHE would be accused of racism if she asked them to leave. I was fuming. Half an hour later they were still all there and when I looked across, the baby was laid on the bed, in amidst the foil containers, having its rather smelly nappy changed. At this point I lost it, told the nurse in charge that if she wouldn't ask them to leave then she should find someone who would have the guts to do it or I would intervene myself. She did ask them to go and they looked very disgruntled.
2. A different Pakistani woman in the same ward as me was screaming and wailing so loudly I thought she must be in agony. This went on for hours and no one could sleep. Around 1am, 4 female friends/relatives turned up to sit with her. The screaming stopped and they spent the rest of the night keeping us awake with their laughing and joking. Later that day I asked her why she had been screaming and she said "I was bored and lonely. I knew they'd ring my family if I kept up the screaming."
What is your verdict?
I am a fairly frequent hospital in-patient and have encountered fellow patients of all races and colours. I accept their religious differences, dietary needs etc and get along with them all. The hospital I attend is in an area with a large Pakistani population
One thing that really gets my goat up is the preferential treatment often given to Pakistani women. Here are two examples. Read them and tell me if I am being racist or am I in the right to feel aggrieved? In both examples, the women in question could speak English.
1. Visiting is restricted to 2 persons and visiting time is 6pm - 8pm. I had two visitors, as did all other patients, except a Pakistani woman who had SIX visitors, not including a screaming baby. At 8pm, all the visitors left, apart from the Asians. At 9pm yet another one turned up bearing numerous foil cartons of curry which they proceeded to eat around the bed. When I had a quiet word with a nurse she told me SHE would be accused of racism if she asked them to leave. I was fuming. Half an hour later they were still all there and when I looked across, the baby was laid on the bed, in amidst the foil containers, having its rather smelly nappy changed. At this point I lost it, told the nurse in charge that if she wouldn't ask them to leave then she should find someone who would have the guts to do it or I would intervene myself. She did ask them to go and they looked very disgruntled.
2. A different Pakistani woman in the same ward as me was screaming and wailing so loudly I thought she must be in agony. This went on for hours and no one could sleep. Around 1am, 4 female friends/relatives turned up to sit with her. The screaming stopped and they spent the rest of the night keeping us awake with their laughing and joking. Later that day I asked her why she had been screaming and she said "I was bored and lonely. I knew they'd ring my family if I kept up the screaming."
What is your verdict?
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No you are not, I suffered the same thing in hospital several years ago. I had my two visitors but the next bed was surrounded by several Pakistani families, who changed shifts bringing the smelly food, the noise was unbearable, there were no nurses around to complain to and I was bedbound. The next time I went in hospital there was the same loudly wailing woman...
17:19 Sun 19th Apr 2015
I don't get you wrong at all Mrs O. I think its shocking behaviour on the part of the staff, as well as the visitors and they (the staff) are using racism as an excuse. If the nurse who finally asked them to leave had REALLY believed that she shouldn't do it because she wasn't allowed to, then she would have stood her ground and let you go to her boss or do it yourself.
Tell me about it, MrsO.....eleven years at Leicester General and I saw it all.
When MrG was unable to eat the food offered and after two months becoming worryingly under nourished I asked if I could bring in some food he might like and therefore eat.
No was the answer...on health and safety grounds.....
Fed up with the many visitors bringing in food for patients.....the smell and the number of people it seemed to need to provide this food was annoying in itself.....I asked why them and not us. I was told it was on religious grounds.
That was when I set up the Portswood Brethren......my religious organisation with special dietary needs......and brought MrG the food on my list.
Things changed after that through one rare, good sister who could see our point.
And I never allowed more than two visitors at a time......when you're really sick, vomiting or needing a bed pan or you just need to rest, a party at the next bed, laughing, screeching and using mobile phones is an extra pain.....x
When MrG was unable to eat the food offered and after two months becoming worryingly under nourished I asked if I could bring in some food he might like and therefore eat.
No was the answer...on health and safety grounds.....
Fed up with the many visitors bringing in food for patients.....the smell and the number of people it seemed to need to provide this food was annoying in itself.....I asked why them and not us. I was told it was on religious grounds.
That was when I set up the Portswood Brethren......my religious organisation with special dietary needs......and brought MrG the food on my list.
Things changed after that through one rare, good sister who could see our point.
And I never allowed more than two visitors at a time......when you're really sick, vomiting or needing a bed pan or you just need to rest, a party at the next bed, laughing, screeching and using mobile phones is an extra pain.....x
No, you are not racist, the rules should be for everyone. If they don't like being treated the same as the rest of us, then tough. When I was in hospital some time ago, the Asians all brought food for their family. One Asian woman came in, she was in for a few days and only wore the one sari. We joked that she had only come in to have it surgically removed.
Huge big ups to the staff in Queen Alexandra's Hospital in Gosport. I never met a mean or incompetent one (well one incompetent nursing support worker) and they were of many races and ethnicities. One and all they were kind, thoughtful, gentle and understanding including the hotel services and reception staff.
No you are not, I suffered the same thing in hospital several years ago. I had my two visitors but the next bed was surrounded by several Pakistani families, who changed shifts bringing the smelly food, the noise was unbearable, there were no nurses around to complain to and I was bedbound. The next time I went in hospital there was the same loudly wailing woman as mrs overcharged who said she was in much pain,,,,the only words she could speak. They moved her away. I dare not say anything in those days because no-one else said anything. They seem to think they have to have it all while we put up with it.
How do you answer this Q without been " as I have, been called a racist, 7 all the other terms related to these people, If I was in that ward, the WOULD HAVE LEFT the same time as me, that woman that screamed would have been warned, keep it up and your out like it or not, if It was my turn, my turn it would be, who is taking the Izz here? who is playing the ACE card & getting away with it & by only one religion, the trouble is with the UK they have not got the balls to stand up to them, take the French, did they back down with the Burka? did they hell, moan as much as you like the UK will never change cause the H.R. Cranks have allowed it to happen & happen kit will, put up with it, they are taking the izzz & they know it, back off the UK you will do as others tell you.
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