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The Community Charge...is It Fair On Single People ?

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mikey4444 | 16:11 Mon 02nd Feb 2015 | ChatterBank
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As a singleton, I have to pay 75% of the C.Tax that the family next door pays, despite there being two wages earners and 3 children living there.

I am quite happy to pay my share of C.Tax but why isn't my discount 75% instead of only 25% ? It doesn't seem terribly fair to me.
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bhg481 -this post is not about moving to the countryside and council tax implications. I was making the point that the Council Tax is unfair -on lots of different people not just single people with no children. So -you obviously can't answer my question about what services people get in the countryside that are subsidized by town dwellers -Lets think why ......
18:30 Mon 02nd Feb 2015
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Ladybirder...if we were starting designing a State Pension scheme today, it is unlikely that we would end up in the over-complicated mess that we are in today ! Its a complete dogs breakfast at the moment, but it gets much simpler soon.

https://www.gov.uk/new-state-pension

The new State Pension will be no less than £148:40 a week, £7716 pa, which is still less than the annual tax allowance of £10,000 pa, so its highly unlikely that any tax will need to be paid, if no other pensions are payable.

I just wanted to clear up the mistaken view that the State Pension is automatically taxable. It is not.
But it is, once you cross the threshold. Your argument is akin to saying that dole money is not taxable.
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Methyl...I agree ! If you read the Wiki link I have provided, its easy to see why it was abandoned so soon after its inception. Here is the link for those that missed it :::

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Charge

My favourite paragraph from the link ::::

"The big collection issue was the 20%/100% split. People in employment had to pay 100%, students and the registered unemployed paid 20%. The nature of the shared house market meant that not even the landlord knew exactly who was living there; tenants were replaced, and may have shared a "single" room with their partner. So the local council had no idea who was living where and when"

You couldn't make it up...no wonder people rioted !
And I just wanted to clear that everyone's SP is not the basic SP, that's all.
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Jackdaw...I was not aware that "dole money" was paid after the State Pension was awarded. Not sure what you mean by "dole money" ?

Is this Job Seekers Allowance, which used to be called Unemployment Benefit, which is what I think of the "dole" ?

Anyway, my central point still stands. Income Tax is only paid on total income, from any source, goes over the £10,000 annual allowance. If the State Pension tips the total annual income over the £10,000, then of course income tax is payable. Nowhere have I suggested otherwise.

By the way, Housing Benefit, along with a 18 other state benefits is NOT taxable. If in doubt, this link will be of interest to you :::

https://www.gov.uk/income-tax/taxfree-and-taxable-state-benefits

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Thank you ladybirder...I appreciate your comments !
"This is an exciting initiative..."
Never been more so excited...
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Glad to hear it JD !
Soz, wrong thread.
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Yes,,,I have just seen it over on the smoking thread JD ! Never mind...we all make mistakes, even you and me sometimes !

Now I am off to bed....at my times of life, I need all the beauty sleep that I can get !
Mikey, //Can I gently suggest that we are going off-topic a bit with this thread.//

Indeed you are. I’ll get back to the subject.

Ummmm, //You're right, Naomi, the areas requiring the most attention are the cheaper areas. They just don't get the same level of attention.//

Still not with you. What 'extras' do you think people in more expensive houses get?

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