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ChillDoubt | 18:13 Thu 23rd Oct 2014 | News
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Stoically going about his duty at the very seat of his country's democracy:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29746466

Had such an event occurred at our Houses of Parliament I've no doubt he'd have been suspended for many months pending an inquiry, during which consideration would have possibly been given to charging him with illegally discharging a firearm and endangering life whilst carrying out his duties or some such other.

In Canada, he gets a hero's welcome. Here there would have been various human rights groups et al asking why he was armed.
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It's not nonsense at all jno. Every time an armed police officer shoots somebody (whether fatally or not) he is suspended pending an enquiry by the IPCC. I doubt that the serjeant-at-arms in our House of Commons carries a firearm (he does carry a ceremonial sword). If he did and if it was discharged and injured or killed somebody I imagine the ensuing enquiry...
18:22 Thu 23rd Oct 2014
// you'd hardly expect a standing ovation from people for repossessing their furniture efficiently, Ludwig. ;-) //

If they had no chairs, at least they'd be standing.
Can you really put a length and volume of the thanks for saving your life!
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PMSL @ Svejk!
ditto@ludwig. Some people take offence, you know. ;o)
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thanks methyl,a truly decent man pre all this,and a decisive and able person who might just have changed history!
Puts the pathetic, right-on lefty ruled. PC, ridden UK to shame.

Well done that man.

One less.
It doesn't put us to any shame at all.
ludwig - "// I'm sure our MP's wouldn't have been allowed such a public display of thanks. //"

No they wouldn't.

Parliamentary proceedure denies our MP's the expresson of approval by applause - normal shows of agreement and pleasure are made by waving Order Papers in the chamber.
youngmafbog - "Puts the pathetic, right-on lefty ruled. PC, ridden UK to shame.

Well done that man.

One less."

No it doesn't - and I don't imagine the Sergent At Arms is taking such goulish delight in taking the life of another human being, however justified the circumstances.

But that's the difference - he actually shot a man dead, you just read about it, and rejoiced, which is really not appropriate.
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Ah, I wondered when Mr rose-tinted-specs was going to pop in from Utopia and make a guest appearance.
ChillDoubt - "Ah, I wondered when Mr rose-tinted-specs was going to pop in from Utopia and make a guest appearance."

I assume you are referring to me?

Interesting, because it is ymb punching the air from the comfort of his computer chair about the ease with which a terrorist can be eliminated.

It is my view, that taking a human life is never simple, whatever the circumstances that is the more grounded and realistic.

Shall I hand my 'rose-tinted specs' to my colleague, who appears better suited to wearing them on this occasion?
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It is my view that taking a human life is never simple
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It would appear that it was abundantly so in this case.
The Sgt at Arms didn't have to agonise too long in this situation, as no doubt you would have whilst mayhem ensued.
Thankfully there are still quite a few Kevin Vickers about prepared to put themselves in harms way whilst the meek and mild pontificate at leisure about their actions.
ChillDoubt - "It is my view that taking a human life is never simple
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It would appear that it was abundantly so in this case.
The Sgt at Arms didn't have to agonise too long in this situation, as no doubt you would have whilst mayhem ensued.
Thankfully there are still quite a few Kevin Vickers about prepared to put themselves in harms way whilst the meek and mild pontificate at leisure about their actions."

Have you ever watched the Clint Eastwood film Unforgiven? the would-be young gunslinger asks William Munny what it's like to actually shoot a man dead.

Mr Munny advises that you shoot him ... and then you live with it.

And that's the bit that makes taking a life difficult - living with it afterwards.

You take it upon yourself to assume that i would hesitate and deliberate in the same circumstances.

I would not.

But like Mr Vickers no doubt will, I would spend the rest of my life adjusting to what I had done, regardless of knowing that my actions were the right ones at the time.

I am not 'meek and mild' and I do not 'pontificate at leisure'.

I merely happen to think that for any sentient being, the taking of a life is not simple and straightforward - if that concept is beyond you, then that is your problem, not mine.
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I am not 'meek and mild' and I do not 'pontificate at leisure'.
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If you say so.
ChillDoubt - "I am not 'meek and mild' and I do not 'pontificate at leisure'.
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If you say so."

I do say so, but then, I would know, wouldn't I?
Do you recall when someone tried to burst into The Irish Parliament and the security guard tried to fight him off and I think I am right in saying the attacker was a convicted murderer.
The exact details will not come to me right now.
Michael Stone? His defence of 'performance art' was rejected.

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