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A lot of Scotts feel betrayed by Labour following the referendum. Looks like ED may well struggle north of the border.
A lot of Scotts feel betrayed by Labour following the referendum. Looks like ED may well struggle north of the border.
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// Ludwig, the last sentence in my earlier response above actually said the Tories had only one seat to lose in Scotland, so I'm none too sure what you're lolling at //
I'll clarify then. The reason I'm rotflmao is because of your amusingly desparate attempts to put a positive spin on everything for Labour.
'Oh yes, Labour will lose 11 seats in Scotland, and the Tories will lose a single one, but that represents 100% of the seats they hold so that obviously a far greater loss for them - you can't get more than 100%...blah di blah'
In fact, if gromit's figures on page one are anything to go by, the Tories stand to actually gain 3 seats, which would be a 200% increase. Have a go at spinning that.
I'll clarify then. The reason I'm rotflmao is because of your amusingly desparate attempts to put a positive spin on everything for Labour.
'Oh yes, Labour will lose 11 seats in Scotland, and the Tories will lose a single one, but that represents 100% of the seats they hold so that obviously a far greater loss for them - you can't get more than 100%...blah di blah'
In fact, if gromit's figures on page one are anything to go by, the Tories stand to actually gain 3 seats, which would be a 200% increase. Have a go at spinning that.
L, You haven't 'clarified' anything! You simply reiterate the fact that I myself referred to, namely that the Tories have only one seat in Scotland. I added that, given the increased dislike of Cameron after the wholly unnecessary Vow/EVEL tie-up, they might well lose even that.
I said nothing whatsoever about Labour, other than referring to the fact that they might very well (quote) "suffer" at the hands of the electorate. In what conceivable way can admitting a party will possibly 'suffer' at election time be deemed to be spin?
As regards polling predictions, I may be wrong, but I seem to recall you yourself pointing out to Mikey that the only poll that matters is the one next May. Whether you did or not, I endorse that sentiment.
I said nothing whatsoever about Labour, other than referring to the fact that they might very well (quote) "suffer" at the hands of the electorate. In what conceivable way can admitting a party will possibly 'suffer' at election time be deemed to be spin?
As regards polling predictions, I may be wrong, but I seem to recall you yourself pointing out to Mikey that the only poll that matters is the one next May. Whether you did or not, I endorse that sentiment.
Well, L, the Scottish electorate obviously haven't suffered at the hands of Labour to nearly the same extent as they have at the hands of the Tory party; namely, to the extent of the latter's being reduced to near-oblivion and - with any luck - to total oblivion soon!
The mistake Labour made during the Independence referendum was being seen "on the same platform", as it were, as the Tories. That's the unforgivable sin up there! Hence the likelihood of a loss of seats.
Let's just wait and see, eh?
The mistake Labour made during the Independence referendum was being seen "on the same platform", as it were, as the Tories. That's the unforgivable sin up there! Hence the likelihood of a loss of seats.
Let's just wait and see, eh?
// The mistake Labour made during the Independence referendum was being seen "on the same platform", as it were, as the Tories //
I don't think they've made any mistake to be honest (other than having a useless leader). It's just that the SNP is now more of an attractive option to alot of scots - they prefer their policies, because they're focused on improving the lot of the Scottish people, and don't really give much of a t0ss about anywhere else.
I don't think they've made any mistake to be honest (other than having a useless leader). It's just that the SNP is now more of an attractive option to alot of scots - they prefer their policies, because they're focused on improving the lot of the Scottish people, and don't really give much of a t0ss about anywhere else.
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L, it may very well be that YOU "don't think they've made any mistake", but the inescapable fact of the matter is that many Scots DO!
G, didn't I just say that the only poll that matters is the one next May? I glanced at the link material you provided and agree that Labour's chances are looking grim in places. As an elderly Scot, I easily recall the days when the Tories were the leading party for decades on end other than in the industrial towns and cities in Scotland. Perhaps they're due a resurgence? One can only hope not!
G, didn't I just say that the only poll that matters is the one next May? I glanced at the link material you provided and agree that Labour's chances are looking grim in places. As an elderly Scot, I easily recall the days when the Tories were the leading party for decades on end other than in the industrial towns and cities in Scotland. Perhaps they're due a resurgence? One can only hope not!
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