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Another Casualty For Our "recreational" Drug User Community
We had a long heated debate on here about drug addicts recently and I was wold, quite tartly, that there was a difference between drugs addicts and recreational drug addicts. Well, here is another "recreational" drug user that won't be wasting any more of her money ::::
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14 years on from her mothers similar self-imposed death, Peaches follows suit. I hope somebody will be watching her little child very closely for the rest of its life.
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14 years on from her mothers similar self-imposed death, Peaches follows suit. I hope somebody will be watching her little child very closely for the rest of its life.
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apparently she was on methadone, isn't that what they give you when you are trying to kick the habit Doesn't sound too "recreationa
16:51 Wed 23rd Jul 2014
I remember seeing an interview with a professional who was talking about addiction in connection with George Best. I can`t remember whether it was his liver specialist or a psychiatrist. Anyway, he said that he thought some people (maybe as many as 10% of the population) have a tendency to depression. It`s as if there is a hole there and a feeling of there being something missing. Some of these people find the element that fills the hole, be it drugs, booze, gambling etc which makes them feel better until of course the effect wears off and then they need another fix. Maybe Paula Yates had that hole and maybe her daughter inherited it and that is why she turned to drugs. Her kids might not have inherited it though so just because their mother took drugs it doesn`t mean they will. I think you are being a bit harsh on Peaches, Mickey.
I lost my Mum in 1996 and my Dad in 1996. My brothers and I used to exchange telephone calls in the early years, on the anniversaries but not so much now. But we didn't get on the phone to our friendly neighbourhood drug dealer, to make us feel better.
The difficulty with Peaches is that lived and worked amongst people to whom drug taking is hardly unusual, and she paid the penalty for that association. As she had been taking methadone for over 2 years previous to her death, it would seem safe to call her a drug addict, albeit one who was trying to change her ways. Its sad of course but hardly unexpected. I am still concerned that her two children may still be within the sphere of influence of the lifestyle that killed two generations of their family.
The difficulty with Peaches is that lived and worked amongst people to whom drug taking is hardly unusual, and she paid the penalty for that association. As she had been taking methadone for over 2 years previous to her death, it would seem safe to call her a drug addict, albeit one who was trying to change her ways. Its sad of course but hardly unexpected. I am still concerned that her two children may still be within the sphere of influence of the lifestyle that killed two generations of their family.
Codeine makes me hallucinate so badly I cant work out why anyone takes it for fun....
Being chased down the road by dogs with body parts in their mouths - and they are gaining on me.... !
about the least frightening was passing a woman suckling.... a piglet.
So I have sympathy with poor Peaches, and also the children ....
Being chased down the road by dogs with body parts in their mouths - and they are gaining on me.... !
about the least frightening was passing a woman suckling.... a piglet.
So I have sympathy with poor Peaches, and also the children ....
/unless you mean him of the Rolling Stones...the one who looks as if he has had a hard life ! /
Keith's not doing bad for a chain smoking 70 year old who only quit smack and coke in his 60s.
//Richards does not believe that any damage was done by his drug use, and that it only enabled him to work harder.
“If I stayed up I got a few more songs out of it,” he explained. “It’s like Churchill said about alcohol, ‘Believe me – I’ve taken a lot more out of alcohol than its ever taken out of me!’ And I kind of feel the same way about the dope and stuff. I’ve got something out of it. Might’ve *** off a lot of people!”
Keith's not doing bad for a chain smoking 70 year old who only quit smack and coke in his 60s.
//Richards does not believe that any damage was done by his drug use, and that it only enabled him to work harder.
“If I stayed up I got a few more songs out of it,” he explained. “It’s like Churchill said about alcohol, ‘Believe me – I’ve taken a lot more out of alcohol than its ever taken out of me!’ And I kind of feel the same way about the dope and stuff. I’ve got something out of it. Might’ve *** off a lot of people!”
Alcohol users and abusers often have a hypocritical attitude to recreational drug use. Not the same they bluster, and they are right. Far more people die of long term alcohol use than drugs. Not to mention the misery they cause to those around them for years.
A different debate for another day is their way of taking the moral high ground when really they are no better.
A different debate for another day is their way of taking the moral high ground when really they are no better.
Mikey, she wasn't a 'recreational' user she was an addict and as such deserves our pity and our sympathy. Alcohol and hard drugs only differ in their legality, but alcohol kills far more people than Heroin ever does. Personally I'm too much of a control freak to smoke, drink or take drugs, but for some people it's not a 'choice' it's just something they feel compelled to do.
mikey - " I was wold, quite tartly, that there was a difference between drugs addicts and recreational drug addicts.
Is that a typo? If so you have not pointed it out.
I do not believe that you do not know the difference between a recreational drug user and a drug addict.
As Ludwig has succinctly observed, the difference is manifest - everyone who smokes tobacco or drinks alcohol is a recreational drug user - although you appear from your stated position to believe that the demarcation is far more distinct. It seems you see recreational drug users - smokers and drinkers - as acceptable, and addicts as the very scum of the earth.
As I am sure you know, life is never that simple - there are extremes at both ends of the scale in any drug use, and it is not limited to consumers of illegal narcotics.
As for Peaches Geldof, her death from an overdose is a tragedy, and should not be lightly dismissed as you have done in your OP. The similarity of her death to that of her mother appears to imply some sort of genetic disposition to drug use, which is a patently flawed position to take. My father was an alcoholic, my mother is a smoker, I indulge in neither narcotic - so simplistic observations are not helping your case.
Ignorance of a subject is no sin - lauding ignorance as a virtue and using it to make sweeping and facile generalisations certainly is.
You are too bright for this pap - are you going to stop it now?
Is that a typo? If so you have not pointed it out.
I do not believe that you do not know the difference between a recreational drug user and a drug addict.
As Ludwig has succinctly observed, the difference is manifest - everyone who smokes tobacco or drinks alcohol is a recreational drug user - although you appear from your stated position to believe that the demarcation is far more distinct. It seems you see recreational drug users - smokers and drinkers - as acceptable, and addicts as the very scum of the earth.
As I am sure you know, life is never that simple - there are extremes at both ends of the scale in any drug use, and it is not limited to consumers of illegal narcotics.
As for Peaches Geldof, her death from an overdose is a tragedy, and should not be lightly dismissed as you have done in your OP. The similarity of her death to that of her mother appears to imply some sort of genetic disposition to drug use, which is a patently flawed position to take. My father was an alcoholic, my mother is a smoker, I indulge in neither narcotic - so simplistic observations are not helping your case.
Ignorance of a subject is no sin - lauding ignorance as a virtue and using it to make sweeping and facile generalisations certainly is.
You are too bright for this pap - are you going to stop it now?
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