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Local Logo Quiz

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phooter | 15:04 Fri 14th Sep 2012 | Riddles
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I'm doing a local logo quiz and am stuck on two. One is a vertical arrow surrounded by an ellipse all in black, the other is a capital letter H top left of the letter in red bottom right in blue with a red, white and blue swoosh through the letter from bottom left to top right.
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Is the first one like this ?

http://www.parkerpen.com/
15:08 Fri 14th Sep 2012
Is the first one like this ?

http://www.parkerpen.com/

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