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anotheoldgit | 10:44 Mon 18th Jul 2011 | News
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http://www.dailymail....y-questionnaires.html

Is it right or even necessary, for some councils to send out these questionnaires in the name of promoting diversity and equality?

/// They are despatched by councils under a requirement to ‘promote and ensure’ diversity under the Equality Act 2010, which was brought in by the last Labour government and consolidated numerous legislation including the Sex Discrimination Act 1975, the Race Relations Act 1976 and the Disability Discrimination Act 1995.///
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What better method would I suggest to reduce silent bigotry/sexism/homophobia/racism/disability-p
rejudice?


The same methods as are used to reduce all other methods of unacceptable behaviour. That is the complainant makes a complaint to the relevant authority, provides evidence to support his contention and the relevant authority undertakes an investigation and takes action if appropriate. And in any case, what evidence is there that local authorities are acting in a way that sees silent bigotry/sexism/homophobia/racism/disability-p
rejudice
as a result? If anything they are the last organisations to act in such a way. They are absolutely obsessed with the diversity industry to such a degree that many of them are unable to function properly, or at least are wasting huge amounts of taxpayers’ dosh addressing a problem that they are not sure even exists.

Yes, everyone paying Council Tax should find part of their rates coming back to them in services. If only that were true for me. My local council spends 53% of its income on “Children & Education” (benefit to me – nil), 17.5% on Housing (ditto), 15% on “Adult Social Care” (ditto again). I think my benefits come out of the 8% allocated to “Cultural, Environmental, Regulatory & Planning Services”. That is, I have a few street lights (until the bulbs go as there seems to be no cash to replace them) and I have my dustbin emptied once a fortnight. That is after I have sorted it into about six different categories only to watch it all tipped into the same lorry to be sorted again by somebody else (paid by the council taxpayer, natch) when it reaches the yard. This is a “service” which costs me the thick end of £2k per year.

This obsession with gathering information about people has reached epidemic proportions. As far as I am aware councils did not ask intrusive questions twenty years ago. But areas were not overrun by youth clubs where there were no youths or homes for the elderly where there were no elderly. Services which councils provide are universal. That is they are suitable for males and females, gays and straights, Muslims and Christians. The only conceivable personal information I can see them needing is age, and it’s about time they lost their obsession with gathering anything else and got on with emptying the bins.
sp1814 >>DrFilth Confused - has that question actually been raised when applying for an allotment? <<

yes it has and has been in several papers

however the first time i read about it was on an aol news page then i think it was the telegraph garden supplement

i am surprised you have not googled it to see if the mail has a story about it

when the papers got involved the council decided it was completely optional to fill that part of the questioner in
New Judge

I challenge your assertion that you do not receive benefits from tax money that go to 'children and education'.

Your pension will be paid, not from your contributions, but from the children whose well-being is being ensured by your local council.

Keep the kids off the street, give them after school activities and watch them flourish, get well-paid jobs and fund the rest of us in our dotage.
New Judge

Furthermore - you can guarantee that whenever someone from a minority (or in the case of women, majority) complain of mistreatment, those of a certain persuasion will immediately accuse them of playing the race/female/handicapped/gay card.

No win really.
sp1814

this is the first place i read it as i am on aol

http://lifestyle.aol....-about-sexuality/?v=d
It's bizarre, sorry
Well, sp, my occupational pension will be met from my contributions. This is a matter of fact not conjecture. The scheme’s accounts show this to be the case and anyway the scheme is now closed to new members. The number of members drawing from the fund now far exceeds those contributing to such a degree that contributing members are expected to reduce to zero within about five years.

It’s certainly true to say that any State pension I might receive (if all the money has not been spent by the time my turn comes) will be met from current contributions. But it’s not my fault that successive governments have chosen to fund State Pensions on the lines of a glorified Ponzi scheme. I paid my (compulsory) contributions in the expectation that the administrators would invest the funds for me to receive a payment in the future (in the same way as any private scheme has to). The fact that those funds disappeared into general taxation to be wasted is scarcely down to me and I’ve no wish to fund the education of young people in the faint hope that they might earn enough to enable the government to pay me my dues. I frankly would have preferred to have retained my contributions and invested them myself, but I had no choice. So I still maintain that I get no direct benefit from the Council Tax that is spent on “children and education”.

However, that is all ancillary to this question. I’m quite sure you’re correct when you suggest that certain minorities (or even sometimes majorities) are treated unfairly. But I see no evidence that they are victims of local councils. So I don’t know why some local authorities are going to the lengths outlined in AOG’s question and at the moment it is a luxury they cannot afford.
New Judge: I agree with all your contributions on this subject, concise and to the point, couldnt have put it better myself. Whenever new rules and regulations come into force regarding some minority group or other, the public sector cant wait to embrace it, money of course being no object, can always close a few old people's homes to pay for it, don't need them.

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