Germany, The New Beginning.

[-Talbot-]

AFD predicted to get around 13% will Angela flip-flop Merkel listen?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/sep/24/german-elections-2017-angela-merkel-cdu-spd-afd-live-updates

[DaisyNonna]

Is Germany just looking for a new way of European domination?

[kvalidir]

I would have thought if you were going to quote Yeats in relation to the AFD in the German elections this would have been more apt ( from the same work no less).
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;

[vetuste_ennemi]

"More apt"?

Depending on what future Yeats was contemplating/warning against.

I like "passionate intensity".

So descriptive of the artistic and sentimental claaa.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Try "class", VE.

[youngmafbog]

To get back to your original question Talbot I suspect the answer is No, Merkle will not listen.

As usual it is the liberal left the are fuelling the rise of the far left/right, will they ever learn?

[youngmafbog]

Khandro, thanks for the link.

Mickey clearly needs to read it judging from his post. Doubt that will happen either as it might ruin his warped view!

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444
/// Just to make it clear what the AFD stands for ::

They are climate change deniers.

They want Germany to do a "180 degree" turn regarding the countries role in WW2.

They want to bring back conscription.

They are against same-sex marriage ///

Did any one else notice that mikey conveniently left out their most urgent aim,

They are predominately against 'MASS IMMIGRATION'.

[Spicerack]

Germany, the new thread.

[Zacs-Master]

AOG, does the fact that the AfD want to stop mass immigration make all the other items which Mikey listed OK?

[vetuste_ennemi]

//AOG, does the fact that the AfD want to stop mass immigration make all the other items which Mikey listed OK?//

The two things are not correlated. Which is, I think, the point the poster was trying to make. You can share an opinion of mass immigration while disagreeing about climate change or same-sex marriage nonsense
.

[Zacs-Master]

They're correlated insofar as the party's overall political aims. I was merely asking whether........

well, its pretty obvious what i was asking.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Yes, I suppose there's a problem with all single-issue groups like AfD and UKIP. To get representation you've got to create a political agenda. Manifestos and all that stuff. My guess is that AfD would split on conventional lines on all other issues (economic policy etc). I voted UKIP whenever I could, but didn't know (and cared less) what their stance was on any issue apart fro EU membership.

[Zacs-Master]

It's a dangerous gambit to vote for a party who have extremist views just because you like one element of their manifesto.

[vetuste_ennemi]

What's extreme about either of the partied, I wonder?

[vetuste_ennemi]

If opposition to same-sex marriage is "extreme", for example, then why would you invite a million people who are also opposed to same-sex marriage into your country? Is that or is that not a self-contradictory stance?

[Zacs-Master]

'They want Germany to do a "180 degree" turn regarding the countries role in WW2.'

pretty extreme IMO.

I'm afraid i don't follow your same sex marriage argument as you seem to have assumed that that's my stance. When it most definitely isn't.