Stars And Abers Who Promised To Take In Refugees

[-Talbot-]

Have any of them actually put into action their promise?
Or were they just running their mouth?

http://www.france24.com/en/20160202-finnish-pm-halts-plan-house-refugees-home

Bob Geldof?
Stan Collymore?
Any ABers?

[retrocop]

My lot refused my humble abode because they were suspicious of a W.C. and couldn't operate a faucet. :-(

[retrocop]

Svejk

//They're 'operating' out of a Red Crescent 'refugee' camp, ichi.//

That is an awful accusation to make. Next thing we know you will allege that Hamas use women and children as human shields and launch rocket attacks from mosques and hospitals in Gaza across the border into Israel !!!

[ichkeria]

"I've no idea who they're fighting for or against, ichi. Don't care either. Do you think anyone should be using refugee camps to launch military operations? "

Well if you literally don't know what you are talking about then I can't help :-)
What I do know is that Red Cross and Red Crescent symbols are being removed from the roofs of Syrian towns to stop them being targeted by Russian bombers.

[-Talbot-]

So nobody has taken refugees into their home then?



Do you have a stance on Turkey attacking the Kurds, Ich?

[viv41]

Who were the ABers who said they would ?

[-Talbot-]

There was a couple

[ichkeria]

"Do you have a stance on Turkey attacking the Kurds, Ich? "

I'm generally against anyone attacking anyone. That includes Turks/Turkmen attacking Kurds and Kurds (PKK) bombing Turkey. The Kurds are being cynically used by Russia at the moment in their "game" in Syria, which is actually seriously degrading the fight against IS. Where previously the YP|G might have been up for an assault on Raqqa, they're largely now helping the Russians in their war against anti-Assad Turkmen. With the Turkish mainland forces lined up against them. NATO v Russia in other words, on neutral ground. Some would say a desperate Russia would like to see a major war as the only conceivable way to get oil prices on the move up again. But I couldn't possibly comment on that

[mushroom25]

my toilet faces the wrong way, apparently.

[Svejk]

ichkeria/// "I've no idea who they're fighting for or against, ichi. Don't care either. Do you think anyone should be using refugee camps to launch military operations? "

Well if you literally don't know what you are talking about then I can't help :-) ///

Shall I take that as a 'prefer not to say?

///What I do know is that Red Cross and Red Crescent symbols are being removed from the roofs of Syrian towns to stop them being targeted by Russian bombers.///

Link?

[Svejk]

Re the OP. Had our virtue-signalling ABers gone as far as enquiring about 'putting up' immigrants, they would have discovered the Government legislated against people 'taking in' immigrants shortly after the idea became fashionable.
Then, instead of going into hiding, they could have virtue-signalled their disappointment.

[viv41]

'There was a couple'. Conspicuous by their absence then !!

[ichkeria]

///What I do know is that Red Cross and Red Crescent symbols are being removed from the roofs of Syrian towns to stop them being targeted by Russian bombers.///

Link?

Here is one:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jan/15/russia-accused-of-breaching-norms-of-war-by-targeting-civilians-in-syria

Say what you like about the foreign secretary, and he not my favourite politician, but he has the Russians well summed up:
"They talk, and they talk, and they talk and meanwhile they bomb ..."
Absolutely spot on, sir

[Svejk]

^Laughable propaganda. You don't need to be a genius to see where those stories came from, nor who Hammond is listening to.
/// “There are two kinds of Islamists; there are those that say this is the word of Allah and it cannot be debated and discussed, and there are those that say they have an Islamist future for the country. But we will argue our case and put it to the people – and if we don’t win, we will keep putting our case.”///

^Lol, what an idiot.

[ichkeria]

Do you think Philip Hammond is basing what he says just on the word of Syrian civil defence workers??? He is only the uk foreign secretary after all.

As for 'laughable propaganda' well I guess that particular irony is passing you by. You prefer to get yours from fanatical Muslims I note (Assad being a Muslim and pretty fanatical :-) )

Oh yeah and the original question: what was the point of it :/)

[Hypognosis]

@Svejk


@Svejk

//'Muslim charities have donated millions of pounds'


19:50 Tue 02nd Feb 2016//

That video is no longer playable; the account has been taken down.
Care to do a summary? (Not solely for my benefit. My interest is limited to the thread title).

[Svejk]

It was some kind of militia group loading their trucks at a refugee camp. Taking their ammo, rocket launchers, etc. out of Red Crescent tents.

[retrocop]

Svejk
This one maybe. If not I am sure there are other instances that are documented
Nefarious activities


Dadaab is also the site of various nefarious and illegal activities that directly impact Kenya. According to the recently-published report, 'Termites at Work', by the International Peace Institute (IPI), some of the arms trafficked from Somalia are first “stored” in the Dadaab refugee camp while traffickers plan their next move.


From Dadaab, the arms end up via neighbouring Garissa in Nairobi’s Eastleigh estate or in the Mukuru Kaiyaba slums.


“Arms traffickers have a sophisticated smuggling system that links Somalia with the refugee camp and with Nairobi,” says the report, which was launched in Nairobi recently.


The Dadaab camp is also the site of human and other forms of trafficking, as is the southern Somali port of Kismayu, a stronghold of Al-Shabaab.Corrupt aid workers and government officials could inadvertently be easing the movement of Al-Shabaab within Kenya.


The IPI report says arms smugglers bribe their way through police checkpoints, and in some cases, UN employees sell migration slots for genuine refugees to people seeking to migrate to other countries.


Officials from the UN’s refugee agency, UNHCR, say that the responsibility of screening refugees arriving at Dadaab lies with the Kenya Government. But even if this is so, can the UNHCR explain why all these illegal activities are occurring under its watch and in a camp it manages?


Moreover, there is the question of identifying Al-Shabaab. Do police at the Kenya-Somali border have names, faces and identities of known members of the terrorist group? What distinguishes a terrorist from a genuine refugee?

[Svejk]

Mine was from the Turkish/Syrian border, retro.
Guess they were 'our' good, friendly, opposition forces if they got U-tube to remove the video. Twas a real insight into Muslim 'charity' and deserved to be seen.

[Hypognosis]

@Svejk

It's not as if Red Crescent are UN peacekeepers or anything. They are unarmed and powerless to stop the devious stradabs from using them like that. Any other weapons dump would be bombed and we'd see nothing in the news: just one more crater in the desert.

Or it's phoney.

fwiw, I'd be happier believing the first option. Fair play and gentlemenly conduct in war is for Europeans. We could google chivalry + arab at this point but my guess is that these terrorists don't play by these rules. Geneva convention only works by *mutual* consent and their perspective is that we TWEP them, so why should they play fair?

[Svejk]

Maybe. Do you think it would happen in a Red Cross camp?