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mikey4444 | 07:54 Thu 26th Nov 2015 | News
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34926104

"Officer Jason Van Dyke has been charged with first-degree murder"

This time the murderer has been caught on dash cam ! Is it any wonder that the black American public are losing confidence in their Police !
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///She said McDonald had been carrying a knife when he was stopped by police in 2014 but had not been threatening them or moving towards them. Mr Van Dyke opened fire seconds after he arrived and continued shooting at the teenager as he lay on the ground, the lawyer added./// Pretty indefensible behaviour from Officer Van Dyke...
08:49 Thu 26th Nov 2015
Mikey - do black policemen never shoot?
Are you deliberately being the worst devil's advocate ever, sqad?


mikey4444
Sqad...American Policemen have been using the excuse " well, he might have been a danger" for too long now. Some of them, at least, appear to be out of control, as there have far too many of these incidents.


That's absolutely correct, far too many incidents involving American police ... now, when people say there is far too many incidents involving supporters of Islam think back on your above comment.
-Talbot- you are entitled to your opinion as i am to mine.

\\\\Are you deliberately being the worst devil's advocate ever, sqad? \\\

That is just a personal attack which merits little consideration.
You are a very brave man mikey. Tell me how you arrest a youth who is carrying an illegal deadly weapon openly.You are unarmed and you know the stab vest you wear is totally unsuitable for the job it was designed for.
Your first thought would be why is he approaching with an open knife and your second thought might be this could be the same killer who fatally stabbed two youths in two seperate incidents in London this week and one a week before that.
Your third thought may be how will I arrest this man ,ensure he is no danger to me and others and finish my shift tonight in order to see my wife and kids. Your last thought could be why did I join the police. I don't get paid enough for this.
Give it up sqad, it's embarrassing. There was no personal attack.
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Talbot......Sqad is entitled to his opinion, even if you and I do not agree with it !

Ummmm...I am sure that black Policemen shoot innocent white people as well, although I am not sure of the numbers involved, and I don't have the time to research that now. But my gut reaction is that there are more white Policemen doing this than black...I may be wrong of course.
retrocop, why didn't the nervous cop just stay out of the way and let the other officers handle the situation.
I'm at a loss how anyone can defend this lunatic.
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Retro...I appreciate all that you have said but I presume the authorities have considered all this, before charging the Policeman with first degree murder.

Is quite clear to me that he overreacted.
Svejk

Seems strange that mikey failed to answer your
08:25 post, I wonder why?

This issue here isnt that the he shot someone, mikey is trying to make a point, no surprises, its a black the white cop shot...

strange how he gets so puffed up and self righteous when anybody mentions reports when a black stabs somebody...

mikey4444

/// But my gut reaction is that there are more white Policemen doing this than black...I may be wrong of course. ///

Yes gut reactions generally do lean towards one's own particular agenda.

Could the real reason be that there are more black criminals, along with more white police officers?
//Is quite clear to me that he overreacted.//

Not the first time you have written this in other situations in the USA.
Your talents are wasted as a CSI on AB. I have looked over the dash cam video several times and nothing is that clear to me to state that the officer overreacted. Especially nothing to find the officer guilty as charged yet.
I heard no audio from the video and only anecdotal script from the prosecutor.It is now her job to convince a jury in a court of law that he is guilty as charged and nor for us in the comfort of our armchairs.Much more has to be delved into and not a video that stays mainly focused on a pixelated form and nothing much else.
Retrocop asked how one stops a knife-wielding thug without shooting them lots. Round here tazers and community action do this ie the alleged criminal gets tazered and as we are still quite a cohesive community people pile in and restrain.
And that's only the mums on the school run.
Round London there are calls to take tasers from the police as well. Not all police are routinely armed with them in any case. Just a baton.There were pobably police officers quickly on scene at Lee Rigby's slaughter but still waited until an ARV arrived to take out the murdurers with appropriate lethal force.
The policeman offloaded sixteen shots.

Sixteen.

This was an execution.

The police all over the world do a difficult and dangerous job, and the vast majority do it well, with professionalism, honesty and integrity.

From what we have seen (and the case has not been proven, so we have to be careful in our condemnation), this copper seems to have fallen woefully short of the standards we expect.

Anyone who tries to turn this around by point fingers at the dead lad is missing the point.

Once again - this was an amazing execution. It became that when the number of bullets fired into the body went into double figures.
I have no idea how the word 'amazing' managed to worm its way into that sentence.

Probably mi iPhone's autocorrect doing its usual sterling job...

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/25/laquan-mcdonald-video-chicago-police-shooting-questions-remain

///Four hundred days after 17-year-old Laquan McDonald was shot and killed by a Chicago police officer ///

This shooting took place well over a year ago
What kind of gun did the policeman have, that help 16 rounds?
Don't tell me he actually took time to reload?
That's surely a criminal act if it's what he did.
It is mentioned in the first link that he did reload, that is chilling in itself given the circumstances.


The erasing of footage from a nearby Burger King CCTV tape is also very odd.


I hope those with all the relevant evidence to hand make the right decision on this charge.


Chilling to read and watch.

It had a 15 round magazine + one in the chamber

one here (other makes and models are available)

http://www.impactguns.com/beretta-px4-compact-pistol-9mm-15-round-jxc9f21-082442154282.aspx

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