Video Editing

Further to my question about Capturing with Ulead's VideStudio10 plus and Analogue video 8 tapes, which just will not work, I have now found that in addition to Microsoft's Window Movie Maker my Logitech Web Cam will also 'capture my tapes with no problem. Thisreally does seem like a problem peculiar to Ulead and I am still hoping for some help if anyone thinks that they know the answer. Thanks musicator3
15:21 Sat 10th Nov 2007
 
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Having looked at your previous post, I see that you say you can capture with moviemaker , but that is is not such a good editor - so why not just capture with moviemaker and edit the resulting avi with Ulead?
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Thank you for your interest rojash but that was one of my first attepts to get around the problem, unfortunately WMM files are saved as .WMM files which the Ulead VideoStudio software will not recognise.
Maybe I've missed something but WMM does not appear to offer the facility to make AVI files.
musicator3
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I'm afraid that I owe you an apology rojash, I've just had another look at WMM and you are quite right, there is a facility for saving 'captured' video as an AVI file and my VideoStudio will recognise it so I'm very sorry about that.
I had a quick look at WMM when the problem first arose and obviously never looked at all the facilities available.
Having said that I still have the original problem even though I can now work around it thanks to you but I would still like to know if there is an answer to that problem so that I will not feel that I've wasted my money and months of time trying to get it fixed so if anyone does know the answer I would still like to hear from them.
Thanks again rojash
musicator3
Do you have a DVD recorder? The best way would be to connect your camcorder to the DVD recorder and record the movie clips that way. Once you've filled a DVD, import them into your computer - I use DVDFabDecrypter (free program) then import the VOB files into VideoStudio by adding video files to the library from the "File" menu.

My mum has an Apple Mac and has her digital camcorder connectected to that and on a system where video editing is so simple I remember she had a problem setting it up initially.

Due to site rules I can't post an email or MSN address in here but if you want to visit my website you can contact me through there for more information and assistance:

www.pictureinthesky.net
Forgot to mention that we bought a DVD recorder mainly for keeping recordings from Sky. I bought VideoStudio to edit the recordings before burning them to DVD.

You mention your source is analogue - by using a DVD recorder that will do the hard work of converting the analogue signal to digital - I can't remember if you mentioned what kit you're using. If you also have a digital camcorder you can use that to convert your analogue signal to digital without having to buy an expensive converter box.

My mum uses Final Cut Pro on the Mac and I've helped her build up q nice library of DV files for use with her video work.
Using Zebuk's method would be acceptable, only if (a) ULead can edit mpeg format, and (b) you are prepared to accept the considerable degradation in quality due to the lossy compression used in the format.
Ulead can handle the MPEG perfectly fine and I've not noticed any degradation in picture quality. Just make sure you have the DVD recorder set to highest quality when recording (lowest recording time per DVD)

Every time a movie is converted some quality is lost but this greatly depends on the quality of the software doing the converting. I'd never use AVI unless using a video codec that doesn't compress the data.
Sorry to disagree, ZebUK, but the whole point of mpeg compression is that the compression is lossy - i.e. it discards information that can never be recovered - it doesn't matter how good the algorithm, it is DESIGNED to discard data. This is why professional editing is always performed on uncompressed formats, and why even amateur movie enthusiasts record using miniDV rather than hard disks or DVDs.
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I have to say gentlemen that I am very impressed with all your comments and help, thank you very much.
I shall have to take my time to try what is being suggested but I am a little worried about what rojash says about 'Lossie' with MPEG.
If I was a little more computer literate as far as this sort of thing is concerned I would be able to add my 'twopennyworth' but I will try to see whether I can work with this suggestion but, again, if anyone can offer a reason why I'm having all these problems and better still maybe, offer a solution I would be very grateful.
Thanks to eveyone who has tried to help so far.
musicator3
MPEG is considered lossy because it isn't proper DV (digital video) format but is slightly compressed. Some picture data is lost during the compression process.

On DVD recorders you can choose what quality to record in. I think the highest quality gives about 1h30m of recording time. The amount of quality lost with this especially as the source is analogue 8mm tapes will be unnoticable. The problem comes when copying analogue to analogue - brighter colors tend to run, mainly the reds and blues.

@rojash: I said absolutely nothing about MPEG not being lossy - I just said I've never noticed any loss of quality. The quality loss is so minimal you'd have to pause on the same frame to notice anything different and even then it's very difficult to notice anything.

This method was suggested to my mum by a friend who works for the BBC in film editing. Obviously this wouldn't be good enough for commercial use but for home use it's more than adequate.
Just thought - if you don't have a DVD recorder you can use - see if a friend will let you borrow theirs for a weekend or even take your camcorder round theirs to record some footage onto a DVD to take home? Be sure to finalise the disc before taking it home.
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ZebUK
You never mentioned where I could down load the
DVD abDecrypter from.
At the moment I'll try anything once!
Thanks
musicator3
http://www.dvdfab.com/free.htm

Just use the bottom link for the free version, it's what I use.

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