Came upon this site. Just wondering is it all actually true or just this guy's reading into it for shock tactics. Also, if you watch the first clip on it I think you may want to convert by the end of it. But I do feel Jesus comes across a little bit psychopathic.
flobadob Sun 07/09/08 22:26
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naomi, do you ever sleep??
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I believe there are at least three different people doing 8 hrs shift each under user name Naomi.
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keyplus...you have got to be at least two of them...
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Oh dear, keyplus. Can't resist it, can you?
Yes, sometimes, Wiz - and always at night.
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Wiz, we cross posted on that last one. Very good. :o)
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And tonight Mathew, I'm going to be............
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er ...... Naomi?
Night, night, Wiz. :o)
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Long list flobadob – They have only few things right in that list and even those half acceptable and half ignorable.
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care to elaborate keyplus?
Presumably the things that you think they have right are the ones that agree with your own beliefs.
They are just another religious group with their own beliefs, I dont find anything more psychopathic that you wouldnt find in the koran or the bible anyway.
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Actually, after having just read that list, 1 - 21 is purely doctrinal ( not sure that 17 & 18 ARE JW beliefs )
22 - 72 are lifstyle choices based on their doctrinal beliefs and the rest appear to be a mixture of doctrine and lifestyle.
If people dont want to participate in "worldly" events (joining the military, not having tattoos , doing martial arts etc) then there is nothing sinister about that, like there is nothing sinister in not believing in the trinity or hell or the deity of christ. They are just their beliefs that may differ from those of other faiths.
There are obviously contentious issues such as blood transfusions and organ donation but on the whole they are no more sinister than other religious groups that prevent freethought. I fail to see how this list makes jesus come across as psychopathic.
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Hi Flobadob, thanks for that. It seems the person who constructed this list may have a bit of an axe to grind with the Jehovah's Witnesses. Some of it is accurate (note I say 'accurate' as opposed to 'true'), but I'm pretty sure some of it is 'bent' a little to suit the author's agenda. I really don't know where he got his figures from for the number of Jehovah's Witnesses in the world. He says there were 9105 in 2006, which doesn't seem a lot bearing in mind the effort these people make to recruit new converts. According to that, all the knocking on doors and pestering doesn't seem to be working very well, does it?
Having said that, according to the Watchtower website, 22 million copies of that publication are now printed - in over 132 languages - and one website says that there are over 1 million Jehovah's Witnesses in the USA alone - so someone, somewhere has got his sums wrong!
As for the video clip - I find that very sad indeed - and to be perfectly honest, pretty sick. Don't think I'll bother to convert!
Wiz, Presumably the things that you think they have right are the ones that agree with your own beliefs.
An accurate and very sensible observation, if I may say so - and one, which of course, as we know, applies to all the religiously minded, regardless of creed. They all disagree, but they're all convinced they're the only ones who have it right. What a sorry predicament!! :o)
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who can be bothered with Jehova's witnesses ? I didn't even see the accident
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" As for the video clip - I find that very sad indeed - and to be perfectly honest, pretty sick. Don't think I'll bother to convert! "
At least it isnt as bad as mainstream christianity who believe that after Armageddon the dead will continue to suffer in an eternal torture chamber. The JW's at least believe that the dead will simply cease to exist.
Just as a side note, look at the video at 2:56. Notice that some men (including jesus / Michael) are sporting beards.
JW males do not wear beards.
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should have wrote "the 'unsaved' dead (ie, non JW's) simply cease to exist.
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It doesn't seem quite so cruel to 'sinners' as mainstream Christianity, or Islam, does it. I'll still give it a miss though - along with the rest!
As for beards, maybe it was trying to portray an authentic Jewish Jesus - wings and all! :o)
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There is not much to elaborate Wiz – And yes you are right, the things I said make sense are the one Islam agrees with. And as I have said before that there is a valid logic in all the teachings of Islam. Illogical things do not make any sense in any religious belief.
Now I am sure not all will agree on one point as we are not angels and we have a free will. Any belief should make a positive change in the world and society if applied properly. Of course few will always oppose that change as that would stop them from fulfilling their human desire which if given a freedom would bring some sort of anarchy in the society. After all a drug dealer want to sell drugs and earn money he would not like a law that would stop him from doing that.
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Keyplus, I couldn't disagree more. There might be valid logic in all teachings of Islam from your point of view, but I don't see much valid logic in it.
As for any belief making a positive change in the world and in society, I don't want other people's beliefs to influence my life in any way whatsoever, and I won't allow them to. Why should my free choice to reject your religion, or any other religion, bring anarchy to society? I'm a law-abiding citizen, with good moral values, and I don't harm anyone. I help my neighbours, I'm compassionate, I raise funds for good causes, I work for the community, I take care of my home and my husband, I have strict principles where children and their upbringing is concerned, so what can your religion teach me that I don't already know? It seems you think that anyone without religion is either a drug dealer, a prostitute, a drunkard, or is destined for some sort of life of debauchery or crime. Why should they be? There's no logic in that at all.
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" It seems you think that anyone without religion is either ....., a drunkard, or is destined for some sort of life of debauchery or crime. Why should they be? "
Maybe keyplus is thinking of me naomi!
" Illogical things do not make any sense in any religious belief. "...with respect Keyplus, why do you then believe in miracles? You contradict yourself.
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