Is it all its cracked up to be?
Theres been a few people on here...including myself....who have bared there souls, warts 'n' all when they have been going through a bad patch (obviously thinking of Theland at the mo). If "thinking positive" is all that needs to be done...as some new age gurus would have us believe...life would be a sinch. The point Im making is that no matter how much I say that weeds dont grow in my garden, weeds will grow.
Obviously if you can find an alternative to your predicament, you would, but sometimes is life just sh!t and we have to ride it through the best we can?
wizard66 Thurs 03/07/08 20:58
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Ah, yes, of course, Clanad. That didn't occur to me, but now you mention it, thank you.
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a bit tough on Woodstock, Everton! Cleaners are entitled to make a living too, you know.
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LOL JNO, Wodstock was this big happening and all these hippys (250,000 of em pooing everywhere) go on about how great the world would be if we were all like them, erm well no, the only reason such people can live as they do is because others go around tidying up after them. I used to work nights of a weekend, at about 0400 only the cleaners (and a few Goths, who were never any trouble) were out picking up all the sick and the chip papers. Hardly anyone sees or even thinks about people who do that, but we'd be lost without them. Save the world demonstrations are no better when they've finished, look at the litter after Live 8.
I'm a positive (but sarky) person, and I dislike pessimists but it's no good being an optimist and have a devil may care attitude when in actuality you're just lazy and ******** and have everyone else running around after you.
I can't stand these manchild people I call them (my generation) the Peter Pan generation cos they're boys who just don't want to grow up, look at this "Grand Theft Auto" nonsense. Am I the only one who finds it sad and a slamming endictment on our society today that you can have a computer game for over 18s?
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Too tired now to expand, but 123 I agree. The bubble is burst.
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As (one of my heroes) Henry Ford said:
Whether you think you can, or you can't, you are usually right
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Oh Vic, I disagree with your hero. I think there's a lot of people who think they can't - but when they try they discover they can.
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well, I tidy up after myself, everton... but actually I'm thinking of getting a cleaner at home to do a proper job dusting and cleaning. This spreads my money around a bit - cleaners I've had in the past have been students starting out and glad of a bit of income. I don't leave them anything disgusting to do. But that's the way the economy works: money circulates, more people get to use it, and cleaning is a job like any other that needs to be done and should be properly paid for. Same goes for peace & love weekends...
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Reality could not care less what we think. It is what we do that has an effect on and actually alters what we eventually realise. Achieving a positive outcome relies on our gaining the best possible understanding of the nature of reality, what can and cannot be changed as well as an understanding of what is in the best interest of those whose lives depend on such understanding and the desire and will to make it real.
There is no point in wasting time and effort questioning whether we can do what is necessary and right. If we can we will by doing our best and if we cannot than we have lost nothing to nothing as there never was anything to be gained or lost.
My positive outlook is derived from the successes I have realised by determining to the best of my ability what can and should be done and doing it. It is that first vision of what is possible and the joy that accompanies your first small triumph that you need to cherish as it is the positive motivation that drives your mind and will to do even more and realise a greater and growing confidence and joy.
The fountain of personal success and joy is believing you are worthy of experiencing it and realising that the effort is in proportion to the reward provided that we promote and defend the growth of a society that also appreciates and allows it.
Positive thinking is not the key to success but the lock which is opened by having an understanding of what success is and the vision to perceive and realise a positive outcome.
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i'll second that naomi :-)
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Yes, but how do you deal with an avalanche of setbacks, that have the effect of wearing you down until your mental and physical strength are all but gone?
This happened to me, and I left my well paid job as a result.
I wasn't weak, I just couldn't cope with the shear volume of stress that showed no signs of abating after many years.
Some people don't have to cope with the problems I have had to confront, and I consider them, "lucky."
In the same vein, I have considered myself, in many respects, "unlucky."
I know some of my problems may have been self engineered, but certainly not all.
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Theland, I too have had health problems, mental problems and as a result left a well paid job because of the problems which then accentuated my spiral downward, even leading to wanting to commit suicide because I just couldn't take anymore. It's not been easy and has taken it's toll on my soul but with sheer determination and help from family and friends(on AB aswell) I have pulled through and now look forward instead of back. I don't count it as luck because really it was down to me to change my mind-set and ultimately my life but your experiences are different to mine so all I can say is try and keep trying to be positive.
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But Theland, some people have to cope with far worse problems than yours, but they simply view them and tackle them differently.. A major disaster to one person can be a minor hitch to another. It's all a matter of getting things into perspective. For example a little while ago you were worrying yourself sick because a tree fell on your son's car. Now, if that happened to my car, I'd be a bit miffed, I'd say it was highly inconvenient, but it wouldn't send me into depression. Looking at the problem logically, the car's badly damaged, and nothing is going to change that, so the answer is to contact the insurance company and sort it out. It isn't the end of the world. There's no point in worrying about things that you either can't change, or about things that, given a little rational thought, can easily be resolved. Seeing yourself as 'unlucky' means you're in a permanent state of negativity, which isn't good. It worries me that you worry so much, because that's something that can be changed - and I'm working on it! :o)
Keep up the good work, Luna. :o)
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I agree Naomi. However sometimes circumstances reduce your resiliance and perspective. Often this has happened over a period of time and it equally takes time to heal. I know this happened with me. If there were an easy answer heaven knows I would bottle it and make a fortune.
But ever onwards, ever upwards.
Don't let the b*sters grind you down
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You're very welcome, dear Theland.
Rosetta, you are so right - in all respects!
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That's the phrase I was looking for ......
"Being ground down."
Then there is the Latin saying ......
Nils illegit carborundum.
Which is basically what Rosetta has just said.
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The term 'positive thinking' was coined for one persons particular philosophy (Wiki provides details if you are interested).
With all philosophy's/religions/faiths/trends/fads, one size never fits all. All of these ways of life's have an attraction and often value, but never seem to total answer, otherwise I guess they would be adopted universally.
However, like others, I do believe that having a positive attitude helps. Your wonderful analogy of the weeds in the garden works. Either you can see them as a terrible plague put there by God/the Muslims/Chavy people/bad luck or whatever your favourite blame object is, or you can view them as having every right to be in your garden, wonderful creations in their own right, but, something you just don't happen to want and you are going to pull them all up and then feel as real glow of satisfaction when you survey your labours.
Life isn't equally fair to all. It is so much easier to be born here, where there is a low infant mortality and a welfare system. But, even with all the advantages we have, some still are dealt an extra hard hand for some unfathomable reason.
Also at certain junctions in life it is appropriate to feel unhappy and miserable, to deny those feelings would be to deny the importance and significance of certain events. When I cry for my dead sibling, this is not a lack of backbone but a very real bereavement. But, I can still rejoice I was lucky enough to have had that relationship.
Finally, for those who are experiencing depression, genuine rather than a bit down, being told to look on the bright side is at best insensitive and at worst cruel.
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