i ve heard it said that the bible is this..... i have read in this book that the sun goes around the earth and that i should not wear cotton and wool at the same time and feel i ought not to eat lamb pasanda and ought to go and kill midianites, knock down obelisks and not kill anyone...the mind boggles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
xerus Thurs 12/06/08 16:43
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I'm unsure which book in the Bible bans lamb pasandas?
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Are you sure you're not getting mixed up with a Terry Pratchett book?
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You've been reading the Qoran........Wow, a word not recognised in my digital-dictionary......
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Deuteronomy 14:21 jno
You shall not boil a kid in it's mother's milk - taken as a prohibition of mixing milk and meat.
I presume there's milk in pasanda?
Mind you isn't there stuff in York's statutes that make it legal to shott a Scotsman with a bow and arrow inside the city walls after dark except on a Sunday?
I don't think the bible has a monopoly of crazy outdated laws!
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well, yogurt, which counts as milk I guess, jake... though sometimes it's coconut milk, which doesn't. But literalist fundamentalists like me think that it's perfectly ok to boil a kid in someone else's mother's milk, and that lambs aren't kids.
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I'd agree if you're going to take something like that literally you have to take it.... well literally!
As you say lambs arent goats
Still the workings of the religious mind take a miracle to comprehend!
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Have you considered that at the time it was written, it might have been beneficial healthwise to follow these rules?
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I can understand not mixing poly-cottons with crimpline..........but surely, that would be on the grounds of 'fashion' not health ?
For a thorough understanding of Leviticus..........I encourage you to read the following;
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/drlaur a.asp
I think it explains everything absolutely..........
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I don't believe in any of this pap (sorry, my tactful head is at the menders) but for the sake of argument, is not the stuff you're quoting a set of man made laws? I thought that it was only the ten commandments that God asked mankind to abide by? (Which technically aren't a bad set if you take out the bits about believing in him)
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Monkeyeyes ..... you always make me laugh. Thank you.
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Theland1
Fri 13/06/08
10:59 Have you considered that at the time it was written, it might have been beneficial healthwise to follow these rules?
Like killing All the Middianites ? Including the babies ?
Loving and compassionate god-wot ?
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Theland is right, up to a point: some of the strictures in the Old Testament about diet and so on probably do have some basis in health and hygiene suggestions for bronze age tribes. But if it's scripture, can it ever be considered outdated, or is it for all time?
Midianites, no, they're not really a health issue.
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Isn't it a bit like blaming Tengri and Eje for the atrocities carried out by Genghis Khan?
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"Midianites, no, they're not really a health issue"...
It was an issue to them. Just one Hebrew with a sword could really put a dampner on your day.
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Has anyone here tried to atone their sins lately? You have no idea how hard it is to find a priest who will perform the correct ritual as designated by the Bible.
I just can't find any priest willing to sacrifice one of my cows and pour the blood over the altar. Most can't even remember which side of the altar they should be pouring it on.
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"Isn't it a bit like blaming Tengri and Eje for the atrocities carried out by Genghis Khan?"
Dojn't know. Did Tengri and Eje command Ghengis Khan to carry out his autrocities then? If not, then it's a bad comparison.
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Insofar as Genghis was concerned, yes.
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In which case, it's a fair comment, and why shouldn't deity X be blamed for the things that they command their followers to do..?
We blame Hitler for the Holocaust, yet I don't believe there's any suggestion he personally gassed anyone.
Of course, this argument relies on speaking from the hypothetical position that deity X exists, but if deity X did exist, then it would be reasonable to ascribe the commisioned actions of their followers to them.
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Agreed, hence my original point.
It all depends which God you believe in, in order to associate relevant blame doesn’t it. If you believe that God (a god) ordered these atrocities to be carried out, then ergo, you probably recognise the existence and power of that God/god/godess to do so.
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I read it as though you were disagreeing!
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