Bible Prophecy - Dr Michael Fortner

[agchristie]

Rise of ISIS: It's all Revelations Ch.9

Obvious isn't it?!

http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/643656/Bible-predicted-rise-of-ISIS-would-spark-war-and-global-devastation

[Old_Geezer]

Predict war at some future time and you're probably on to a winner.

[vulcan42]

I got as far as " he describes himself as a bible prophecy expert" and decided he wasn't.

[Rosetta]

I know all the logical arguments, and anti- conspiracy theory ideas are nonsense.But at a deeper level I'm very fearfull for the future. And Im not alone in this. Change happens but folks need to see the reasons for going along with it

[-Talbot-]

Well if the bible predicted World war one and two, who am I to argue?

Did the bible predict ww1&2?

[-Talbot-]

I'm still waiting on the riot predicted in 2005!

[jackthehat]

Wasn't that The Kaiser Chiefs, Talbot? :o)

[-Talbot-]

Possibly, Jack. ( think I'll hand around and Watch the thread get lairy)

[agchristie]

Vulcan 42 > I got as far as " he describes himself as a bible prophecy expert" and decided he wasn't.

Yes, just about anyone can manipulate the bible to make something fit; sells a few books doesn't it?

[birdie1971]

The Bible didn't predict the rise of ISIS. The Bible didn't predict the Islamic faith. The Bible didn't predict Mohammed. The Bible didn't predict anything of any substance whatsoever. The Bible makes vague pronouncements about the future but never really gets specific enough so that those predictions can be tested and verified against reality. That's the Bible's strength - its prophetic reliability is untestable due to the vagaries of the texts. This allows unscrupulous people to exploit the gullible and the stupid into believing that the Bible is prophetic, despite all evidence to the contrary.

All religious tomes do the same. The Koran, for example, makes many pronouncements about the future but all can be interpreted in different ways. The Koran, Bible, Torah - all share the same pattern.

It's such a shame that so many people are incapable or unwilling to see the falsehood that is peddled as an ultimate truth. It's a genuine tragedy.

[naomi24]

What is a 'bible prophecy expert'? Someone who endeavours to match passages from the bible with world events? He may as well try reading Nostradamus. I've no doubt he'd find ISIS tucked away somewhere there too - if he searched hard enough.

[agchristie]

> What is a 'bible prophecy expert'? Someone who endeavours to match passages from the bible with world events?

I've just checked to see if Old Moore's almanac is still published. It is and furthermore, if you live in Ireland there will be an earthquake this year!

You read it here folks! ;)

[cassa333]

I can't remember his name but some bloke wrote a book called the Bible Code that he said that if you use code breaking techniques it predicts the future.

He wrote two books I think and each one 'found' predictions after the events so I don't know how accurate it was or indeed if he is still trying to make it work before events.

I did have a suggestion for him on how he might improve his hit rate but he never got back to me

[jomifl]

Cassa, I know the guy you are referring too, he gave a copy to a friend of mine who used to live in the States, It is complete and unadulterated nonsense.

[cassa333]

Course it is jomifl lol but he must have made a mint on book sales lol

I haven't heard about it for a long time so wonder what he is up to?

[BilSuth]

Scholars and amateurs are always trying to "make a fit" for the scary Book of Revelations and the statements of Nostrodamus. Revelations is considered dubious even by many Christian scholars, as it was written during one of the periods when the early Church was getting a hard time from one of the crazier Roman emperors, hence the apocalyptic images and the reassurance that justice will be done and the good guys will be winners, even if we have to wait for the afterlife.
What messages are there for us? If a prediction was spot-on, does is mean all the others are right too? Is predicting the future possible? It hasn't happened yet and therefore can be changed if warnings are heeded (so the "prediction" doesn't come to pass anyway).
Rather than looking for mystical signs and cryptic messages, if you want Bible advice, just stick to the words of Christ. He played down the Old Testament obsessions such as smiting of enemies, hence his unpopularity among the establishment of his lifetime, and instead urged us to be as good as we can towards other people. Sounds to me like a sensible formula for a better world.

[Hypognosis]

Practically zero analysis in that article, ag. Basically just free advertising for the book. R.I.P. journalism :-(

Some nuggets (Chapter/verse numbers, sadly lacking in the main article) in the comments section but you will probably want to take a shower, after delving down there. (Some prize examples of how insulting supposed 'Christians' can be towards others).

[agchristie]

Hypo, welcome back sir, it's been a wee while since we last crossed paths.

Thanks for your reply on this and you are absolutely correct ;)