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Does God Set A Good Example
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Religionists, (of whatever persuasion) does your God set a good example to live by...according to your own scriptures?
I have to admit that I havn't read all of the Koran so will have to leave that to others. However, I have read the entire Bible and the saying "Do as I say. Not as I do" seems appropriate.
Just curious here, but why is it ok for God to slaughter, maim, kill, murder, be jealous, homophobic, genocidal, sexist, vain, vindictive etc and yet we mere mortals have to ask HIM for forgiveness of sins?
Just asking.
I have to admit that I havn't read all of the Koran so will have to leave that to others. However, I have read the entire Bible and the saying "Do as I say. Not as I do" seems appropriate.
Just curious here, but why is it ok for God to slaughter, maim, kill, murder, be jealous, homophobic, genocidal, sexist, vain, vindictive etc and yet we mere mortals have to ask HIM for forgiveness of sins?
Just asking.
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You forgot to include pedophilic.
I have not read the bible nor the koran completely, but from what I've seen so far, there seem to be so many contradictory passages that proofs the book(s) are fables.
The most obvious one is that... supposedly, Noah was witness to gruesome mass genocide by his idol who is professed to be good and forgiving. Then his family committed incest to re-populate the world. So where do the different races of people come from in such a relatively short time?
I have not read the bible nor the koran completely, but from what I've seen so far, there seem to be so many contradictory passages that proofs the book(s) are fables.
The most obvious one is that... supposedly, Noah was witness to gruesome mass genocide by his idol who is professed to be good and forgiving. Then his family committed incest to re-populate the world. So where do the different races of people come from in such a relatively short time?
nailit - "Does God Set A Good Example?"
Indubitably, demonstrably, unquestionably, emphatically and unequivocally, no.
The "God" of all major world religions is (to quote Richard Dawkins), "... jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
That description fits Allah, Jehovah, Yahweh or any other name that is routinely attributed to the entity commonly known as "God". This so-called 'God' (according to scripture that venerates him) is monumentally evil, vicious and capricious. It's all laid out in black and white in the 'holy' books of Islam, the Bible and the Torah.
Despicable books all.
Not one of them can be considered, by any measure that is recognisable by the morals and social norms of today, as being 'good'. Every single one of them revels in the deaths of their ideological/spiritual opponents. Nothing has changed in 2000 plus years. I find it sad, lamentable and depressing to live in an age of such religious duplicity and intolerance.
Indubitably, demonstrably, unquestionably, emphatically and unequivocally, no.
The "God" of all major world religions is (to quote Richard Dawkins), "... jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
That description fits Allah, Jehovah, Yahweh or any other name that is routinely attributed to the entity commonly known as "God". This so-called 'God' (according to scripture that venerates him) is monumentally evil, vicious and capricious. It's all laid out in black and white in the 'holy' books of Islam, the Bible and the Torah.
Despicable books all.
Not one of them can be considered, by any measure that is recognisable by the morals and social norms of today, as being 'good'. Every single one of them revels in the deaths of their ideological/spiritual opponents. Nothing has changed in 2000 plus years. I find it sad, lamentable and depressing to live in an age of such religious duplicity and intolerance.
Hello Keyplus. Remember me old chum? Of course you do. I'm the one you used to debate with extensively and now refuse to, since I've bested you in every single argument we've ever had. Come on! You must remember me! I'm the one who you threatened with physical violence. I'm the one you invited to Pakistan (flying me first class no less!) to debate with your "friends". You must remember me surely?
No? Oh, well.
The advice you give as the most practical solution to someone who thinks that religion is full of murder, hatred and mayhem is to read the source material upon which those beliefs are founded. I could not agree more. That's great advice Keyplus; let's all read the Koran.
I'm particularly interested in the murder of Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf. This chap was a poet who was critical of Mohammed. Apparently Mr Al-Ashraf "hurt" Mohammed and Allah by saying words. Mohammed and Allah don't like bad words said about them so when Mohammed was asked if Mr Al-Ashraf should be murdered, Mohammed said, "Yes please". And it was done. Cold blooded murder sanctioned by Mohammed himself.
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And you think that Mohammed is the "perfect" man?
Wow.
No? Oh, well.
The advice you give as the most practical solution to someone who thinks that religion is full of murder, hatred and mayhem is to read the source material upon which those beliefs are founded. I could not agree more. That's great advice Keyplus; let's all read the Koran.
I'm particularly interested in the murder of Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf. This chap was a poet who was critical of Mohammed. Apparently Mr Al-Ashraf "hurt" Mohammed and Allah by saying words. Mohammed and Allah don't like bad words said about them so when Mohammed was asked if Mr Al-Ashraf should be murdered, Mohammed said, "Yes please". And it was done. Cold blooded murder sanctioned by Mohammed himself.
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And you think that Mohammed is the "perfect" man?
Wow.
There's more than a tad of anthropomorphism in the question with its assertion that God embodies such human properties.
Since most religious beliefs are homocentric, concerned with questions such as the purpose of humanity’s existence, the origin of human beings, and humanity’s place in the universe, many belief systems assign human attributes to the divine. From the perspective of believers of a religion where the deity or deities have human characteristics, it may be more accurate to describe the phenomenon as “theomorphism,” or the giving of divine qualities to humans, instead of anthropomorphism, the giving of human qualities to the divine. In most belief systems, the deity or deities existed before humans, and therefore humans were created in the form of the divine. This resemblance implies some kind of kinship between human beings and God, especially between humanity’s moral being and God.
For philosophically-minded theists and adherents to theological systems, the essence of God is impersonal Being, the "ground of being." Omnipotent, omnipresent, and uncaused, God is totally incommensurate with creation. From that perspective, anthropomorphic conceptions of deity are indeed projections of human qualities on the ineffable. Anthropomorphism, then, is taken to be fundamentally flawed, and only manifests popular ignorance.
Since most religious beliefs are homocentric, concerned with questions such as the purpose of humanity’s existence, the origin of human beings, and humanity’s place in the universe, many belief systems assign human attributes to the divine. From the perspective of believers of a religion where the deity or deities have human characteristics, it may be more accurate to describe the phenomenon as “theomorphism,” or the giving of divine qualities to humans, instead of anthropomorphism, the giving of human qualities to the divine. In most belief systems, the deity or deities existed before humans, and therefore humans were created in the form of the divine. This resemblance implies some kind of kinship between human beings and God, especially between humanity’s moral being and God.
For philosophically-minded theists and adherents to theological systems, the essence of God is impersonal Being, the "ground of being." Omnipotent, omnipresent, and uncaused, God is totally incommensurate with creation. From that perspective, anthropomorphic conceptions of deity are indeed projections of human qualities on the ineffable. Anthropomorphism, then, is taken to be fundamentally flawed, and only manifests popular ignorance.
//So is your purpose to discredit the bible or God?//
Who talked about discrediting anything? I didnt.
I asked if 'God set a good example' and admitted that I havnt read the entire Koran so I couldnt comment (like I havnt read other religious tomes so couldnt possibly comment with any degree of honesty)
I have read the Bible (cover to cover) and the God it portrays is a lunatic. So I am basing my Q on the Biblical portrayal of God.
Hope this answers your question.
Who talked about discrediting anything? I didnt.
I asked if 'God set a good example' and admitted that I havnt read the entire Koran so I couldnt comment (like I havnt read other religious tomes so couldnt possibly comment with any degree of honesty)
I have read the Bible (cover to cover) and the God it portrays is a lunatic. So I am basing my Q on the Biblical portrayal of God.
Hope this answers your question.
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