Jihadist Islamofascists

[Theland]

Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland never had a mandate for their atrocities from the New Testament, whereas JIF's most certainly do have a mandate from the Koran and their paedophile prophet Mohammed.
Ordinary law abiding integrated Muslims do not follow the true teaching of the Koran, which is to wage Jihad by whatever means on the rest of us.
I have condemned them on this site many times over the years, and Iregret not one word of all I have ever said on the subject.
It is worse now than even I ever imagined, and I always imagined it would be a continuous escalation of violence and more and more submission and appeasement in a futile attempt to keep Muslims in the UK content.
Do you still believe the Muslim claim that Islam is a religion of peace?

[mibn2cweus]

I too have issues with those who insist some invisible sky monster needs their help dictating what we should all believe and do.

[Hypognosis]

@mibn

You're not one of those ground-hugging, lasagna-beastists, are you? We won't forget the bechemel heresies any time soon.

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[Hypognosis]

@Theland

It strikes me as being a religion of _conditional_ peace.

That is to say when they've converted everyone on the planet, and killed all those who wouldn't comply, there will be peace.

Did I say peace? I mean strict behavioural control, grovelling five times a day, annual dietary practices dangerous for high northern latitudes and outright misogyny.

It's a variation on the "Love me or I will burn you for all eternity" one. Whatchamacallit?

[Bathsheba]

Hey Theland, how are you old friend? ;)
x x

[ludwig]

The honest answer is, no-one knows. Muslims can't even agree between themselves what kind of religion it is, so what chance have the rest of us got?

[naomi24]

Fender, you're mistaken. It's not about self belief or of understanding oneself. Jihad means to strive, but nothing within Islam excludes Allah. Put simply, the Koranic interpretation is to strive in the cause of Allah.

[ludwig]

// the Koranic interpretation is to strive in the cause of Allah. //

..and I guess that's the basic problem. You can interpret that as striving to do good for your fellow man, chopping of anyone's head that isn't a muslim, or anything in between.

[naomi24]

Hey ho. The justification is there whichever way you want to go. Wouldn't you have thought Allah, knowing that human beings are numbskulls, would have been a bit more explicit?

[ludwig]

It sure would have saved alot of trouble Naomi.

[Khandro]

Theland; //Do you still believe the Muslim claim that Islam is a religion of peace? //
There seems to be an implied underlying stance here that you are, and if this is true, how do you think this kind of ill-informed, insulting post contributes to your cause?
//I have condemned them on this site many times over the years, and I regret not one word of all I have ever said on the subject.//
Wow! what a pompous, self-centred windbag you are.

[naomi24]

Ludwig, God, aka Allah, liked causing trouble - allegedly. In the words of Miranda's mum, "Such fun!!"

Khandro, don't be so silly - or so rude. He's entitled to his opinion.

[birdie1971]

Theland - "... Do you still believe the Muslim claim that Islam is a religion of peace?"

Islam is the religion of peace. Its claim is entirely valid. Sort of. If you're willing to twist logic and throw away reason.

You see, in Islam, the word "peace" doesn't mean what you and I and the vast majority of rational non-muslim people think it means. In Islam, "peace" means something else; it means the total domination of Islam over the entire world with unquestioning adherence to Sharia law. That is what Islamic fascists define as "peace" - a world ruled entirely and completely by Islam.

This is not just my opinion. It is an irrefutable fact. If one reads the Koran (and I encourage everyone to do so) it is stated quite specifically that "peace" will be achieved when Islam rules the entire world. There is simply no other interpretation of the Islamic description of "peace".

As if further proof were needed, just the other day I read that Boko Haram has descended upon a rural Nigeran town and systematically murdered every single male over the age of 16. Having done so, they rounded up the women and children and announced that they will now convert to Islam or die and that they shall now live in "peace" with the very people who murdered their fathers, sons and husbands.

That is the "peace" that Islam promotes and espouses. That is the basis for the claim that Islam is the religion of "peace".

Islam butchers language in the same way that it butchers people.

[birdie1971]

Khandro - "... Wow! what a pompous, self-centred windbag you are..."

Pot and kettle my friend. Pot and kettle...

[Khandro]

Birdie, // [i]You see, in Islam, the word "peace" doesn't mean what you and I and the vast majority of rational non-muslim people think it means. In Islam, "peace" means something else; it means the total domination of Islam over the entire world with unquestioning adherence to Sharia law[i]
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I don't know from where you gather your information, I suspect it's from one of the many anti-Islamic websites you choose to frequent, but 'peace' and 'peace-making' in Arabic means just what it means in English. Sulh, which is used in the Quran, is also the root of the word islah denoting development and improvement. This term is used to refer to peacemaking. Peacemakers are agents of good and those who breach it are elements of corruption and sin. It is therefore observed that peace and peacemaking are seen in Islamic tradition as part and parcel of human development. In Islam peace and making peace are seen as Godly acts worthy of praise and reward.
As most of your posts are predicated on causing division and misunderstanding, the world would be a far better place, if attempting to achieve it was an aspiration for you, and indeed for us all.

[naomi24]

Khandro, tell that to the Islamic terrorists - and to all those 'peace-loving' Muslims who support their actions.

[jomifl]

/you have thought Allah, knowing that human beings are numbskulls, would have been a bit more explicit? /
We don't know what Allah really said(assuming such a person /thing exists or existed) since his secretary was so cr@@p at keeping records. Leaves and stones indeed, how on earth do you file those?

[naomi24]

Tupperware?

[Khandro]

naomi //tell that to the Islamic terrorists'// I don't have too, Muslims the world over are doing it themselves, 2,000 Imams in Germany alone on Friday; http://www.expatica.com/de/news/local_news/german-muslims-rally-against-extremism_302459.html