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Who Are Fully Convinced That The Bible Is The Word Of God?
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Many people are attracted to Jehovah’s Witnesses because of the high moral standards and the love that they see among the Witnesses. That is a fine start,
But it does not mean that such people have faith. Others may have a marriage mate or a parent who is strong in faith, and they may share in some of the activities engaged in by that one whom they love. Having such an influence in one’s home is truly a blessing, but this too is no substitute for personal love of God and personal faith.—Luke 10:27, 28.
But it does not mean that such people have faith. Others may have a marriage mate or a parent who is strong in faith, and they may share in some of the activities engaged in by that one whom they love. Having such an influence in one’s home is truly a blessing, but this too is no substitute for personal love of God and personal faith.—Luke 10:27, 28.
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methyl - "... The Koran (aka Qur'an) is an equally Good Book with similar contents. Please do not extend this thread to extremist interpretations of either book..."
By saying that the Koran is morally and ethically equivalent to the Bible you have demonstrated (to those of us who have read and understand the Islamic scriptures) that you have very little understanding of Mohammed's religion. It is quite a simple task to cherry-pick some nice and laudable passages from the Koran. However, the nice bits of the Koran do not reveal the true nature of Islam. To comprehend it, one must be familiar with the time-line of Mohammed's life (since the Koran is not written in a chronological order) and be fully aware of the concept and ramifications of Islamic abrogation.
By saying that the Koran is morally and ethically equivalent to the Bible you have demonstrated (to those of us who have read and understand the Islamic scriptures) that you have very little understanding of Mohammed's religion. It is quite a simple task to cherry-pick some nice and laudable passages from the Koran. However, the nice bits of the Koran do not reveal the true nature of Islam. To comprehend it, one must be familiar with the time-line of Mohammed's life (since the Koran is not written in a chronological order) and be fully aware of the concept and ramifications of Islamic abrogation.
goodlife Can you tell me who/what is this God Thing you keep talking about ?
Nobody can see, hear, touch, smell, or taste it .
Which by definition means it doesn't exist !
I had a friend who lost the top of a finger and and like you was very devout , so he prayed for several years to your GT to regrow his part finger. IT DIDN'T WORK ! It still looked like a squashed plum.
Now why is your GT such a failure ? You say your GT created the universe and yet he can't even do such a minor repair job ! Let alone regrow failed organs of the body.
Millions of operations and treatments are carried out every day by MAN . If your GT existed they wouldn't be necessary in the first place.
PS. My friend recently deceased was a JW at the time of his accident and for
his years of prayer.
Nobody can see, hear, touch, smell, or taste it .
Which by definition means it doesn't exist !
I had a friend who lost the top of a finger and and like you was very devout , so he prayed for several years to your GT to regrow his part finger. IT DIDN'T WORK ! It still looked like a squashed plum.
Now why is your GT such a failure ? You say your GT created the universe and yet he can't even do such a minor repair job ! Let alone regrow failed organs of the body.
Millions of operations and treatments are carried out every day by MAN . If your GT existed they wouldn't be necessary in the first place.
PS. My friend recently deceased was a JW at the time of his accident and for
his years of prayer.
methyl
//Please do not extend this thread to extremist interpretations of either book. //
That argument is largely invalid because the theists of all levels of piety are using their 2000 books to justify their actions today and must therefore also be judged by today's standards .
Common Law and social standards change as circumstances change but holy books are, in the main , set in the time of their creation. albeit many thousands of years ago.
It will never change as long as the clerics want to keep the power it gives them.
methyl, I will let you interpret it how you like:
If a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free as the male slaves do.
Exodus 21.7
Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death
Exodus 22.19
Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.
Exodus 35.2
For thou art a holy people unto Jehovah thy God, and Jehovah hath chosen thee to be a people for his own possession, above all peoples that are upon the face of the earth.
Deuteronomy 14:2
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee
Genesis 3:16
For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.
1 Corinthian 11:8-9
And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head -- it is just as though her head were shaved. If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man.
1 Corinthian 11:5-7
I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.
1 Timothy 2:12
Let the women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but let them be in subjection, as also saith the law.
And if they would learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home: for it is shameful for a woman to speak in the church.
1 Corinthians 14:34-35
Its entrails, however, and its legs he shall wash with water. And the priest shall offer up in smoke all of it on the altar for a burnt offering, an offering by fire of a soothing aroma to the LORD. (the creator of the universe likes the smell of burning goat meat).
Leviticus 1.9
You shall not eat of their flesh nor touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you
Leviticus 11.8
But whatever is in the seas and in the rivers that does not have fins and scales among all the teeming life of the water, and among all the living creatures that are in the water, they are detestable things to you
Leviticus 11.10
When a woman has a discharge, if her discharge in her body is blood, she shall continue in her menstrual impurity for seven days; and whoever touches her shall be unclean until evening.
Leviticus 15.19-24
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Leviticus 18.22
And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
If a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free as the male slaves do.
Exodus 21.7
Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death
Exodus 22.19
Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.
Exodus 35.2
For thou art a holy people unto Jehovah thy God, and Jehovah hath chosen thee to be a people for his own possession, above all peoples that are upon the face of the earth.
Deuteronomy 14:2
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee
Genesis 3:16
For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.
1 Corinthian 11:8-9
And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head -- it is just as though her head were shaved. If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man.
1 Corinthian 11:5-7
I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.
1 Timothy 2:12
Let the women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but let them be in subjection, as also saith the law.
And if they would learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home: for it is shameful for a woman to speak in the church.
1 Corinthians 14:34-35
Its entrails, however, and its legs he shall wash with water. And the priest shall offer up in smoke all of it on the altar for a burnt offering, an offering by fire of a soothing aroma to the LORD. (the creator of the universe likes the smell of burning goat meat).
Leviticus 1.9
You shall not eat of their flesh nor touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you
Leviticus 11.8
But whatever is in the seas and in the rivers that does not have fins and scales among all the teeming life of the water, and among all the living creatures that are in the water, they are detestable things to you
Leviticus 11.10
When a woman has a discharge, if her discharge in her body is blood, she shall continue in her menstrual impurity for seven days; and whoever touches her shall be unclean until evening.
Leviticus 15.19-24
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Leviticus 18.22
And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
No one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition maggie !
Off the subject perhaps but this reminds of a wonderful story. Many years ago, the astrologer for The Sun was having too many complaints from the readers, so it was decided by the newspaper management to sack her.
The Editor at the time, a Mr Larry Lamb, wrote her a letter that started
"as you are probably already aware, I am sacking you....."
Priceless !
Off the subject perhaps but this reminds of a wonderful story. Many years ago, the astrologer for The Sun was having too many complaints from the readers, so it was decided by the newspaper management to sack her.
The Editor at the time, a Mr Larry Lamb, wrote her a letter that started
"as you are probably already aware, I am sacking you....."
Priceless !
St Peter checking passports at the pearly gates and directing people to go in one of two directions .
Goodlife arrives and asks St Peter - ''who are those people being directed down that route - it's a bit dark down there isn't it ?''
St Peter - ''oh those are a group of arrivals , known as the ABER's - did you know them ?''
Goodlife arrives and asks St Peter - ''who are those people being directed down that route - it's a bit dark down there isn't it ?''
St Peter - ''oh those are a group of arrivals , known as the ABER's - did you know them ?''
yeah boxie if you ask a new JW convert
I am sure they would say oo yeah love n high moral standardss...
and yes Good Life - you know I would do this - Luke 10:27 is absultely nothing to do with marriage mates and parents with strong faith - I thought not.
Teacher what do I do to inherit everlasting life ?
what has been written?
having answered, he said, you shall love the Lord God....
To my mind the quote confirms that the speaker thought he was aJew and not out on his own and therefore would cause difficulty at the COuncil of Jerusalem AD 50 where they discussed whether it was a ll a new religion or just an extension of Judaism.
Clearly the NT means different things to different people...
I am sure they would say oo yeah love n high moral standardss...
and yes Good Life - you know I would do this - Luke 10:27 is absultely nothing to do with marriage mates and parents with strong faith - I thought not.
Teacher what do I do to inherit everlasting life ?
what has been written?
having answered, he said, you shall love the Lord God....
To my mind the quote confirms that the speaker thought he was aJew and not out on his own and therefore would cause difficulty at the COuncil of Jerusalem AD 50 where they discussed whether it was a ll a new religion or just an extension of Judaism.
Clearly the NT means different things to different people...
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