The Qur'an on The Status of Women and Children

[beso]

Which verses of the Qur'an refer to the relative status of men, women and children?

[keyplus90]

There are so many. Depends what you really are looking for. Just buy a copy of Quran with Index at the end and search the words.

[humbersloop]

try this beso

http://skepticsannota...quran/women/long.html

[naomi24]

Big question Beso. In what respect? I'm going away, and I'm not sure how good my internet connection will be - but I'll try to keep track of your thread.

[birdie1971]

I particularly enjoy gems such as these...

"Allah directs you in regard of your Children's [inheritance]: to the male, a portion equal to that of two females.... These are settled portions ordained by Allah."

"And get two witnesses out of your own men. And if there are not two men (available), then a man and two women, such as you agree for witnesses, so that if one of them (two women) errs, the other can remind her."

“If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four witnesses from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death claims them."

There are of course, many many more. All splendid stuff. We don't want those pesky ladies getting ideas above their station do we?

[douglas9401]

Yup, headstrong besoms need not apply.

[wildwood]

lol @ birdie1971

[keyplus90]

Depends what sort of information you are after and what is the objective or need of information. Depending on that you can either do what I suggested in my first post and gain first hand knowledge, otherwise just listen to birdie and that may satisfy you better.

[Kiki-frog]

I think that both Keyplus and Naomi are right (and I don't suppose anyone says that very often!) in that the question needs clarification. Whether the Quran, Bible or complete works of Shakespeare, quotes are easily taken out of context to prove points erroneously. But it's an interesting question, and I hope it doesn't degenerate into ill-informed mud-slinging.

[birdie1971]

Keyplus - “... Depending on that you can either do what I suggested in my first post and gain first hand knowledge, otherwise just listen to birdie and that may satisfy you better...”

For once I completely agree with you. Those who want to know about Islam should read the Koran. Rather like the Bible, the Koran once read, should put most rational, compassionate and moral people off organised religion for ever.

[keyplus90]

For once I will agree with birdie too. Please get a copy o Quran translated in English with commentary. There are websites offering free copies. In today's modern time you can even download it free in book form or digital. Take my words (and of birdie) and you would not disappointed.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Harmony and concord. A new spirit of tolerance and mutual respect orchestrated by Kiki. Naomi and Birdie beating their swords into ploughshares. A suspension of mud-slinging. An awful crossword in today's Times. It's ruined my weekend.

[birdie1971]

Keyplus -

Why would someone need an English copy of the Koran, “... with commentary...”? Why can't a person simply read the Koran without any outside influences and draw their own conclusions? Is it because without a sympathetic commentary, you fear they may conclude that it is a rather hate-filled tome full of people with highly questionable morals?

As I stated earlier, if a person reads what is actually written in the Bible and the Koran, these books are the most effective method for opening their eyes to the true inhumanity of organised religion.

[naomi24]

Birdie, //Why would someone need an English copy of the Koran, “... with commentary...”? //

So you won't believe what's really written there, of course!

Is that better VE? :o)

[vetuste_ennemi]

I'm beginning to perk up.

[naomi24]

Thass my boy! :o)