JJ disproves the existence of God

[joggerjayne]

Part 1.

From my balcony, with a stick, I could throw a lacrosse ball on to the beach. From this height, it would make a random pattern in the pebbles.

Primitive civilizations would have called this pattern ... "Creation".

As the tide came in, it would randomly change the pattern.

Primitive civilizations would have called this NEW pattern ... "God's Great Scheme".

Part 2.

Now, let's say I wanted to try to reproduce "God's Great Scheme".

I would find it impossible to throw another ball, and recreate the same pattern.

Why?

Primitive civilizations would say that it was impossible to reproduce something which could only have been created by a "Divine Creator" (ie. me, on my balcony).

Other people might say that the primitive tribes are confusing the principles of "cause and effect".

Part 3.

If someone a long way away (say, Blackpool) threw a lacrosse ball onto their own beach, the resulting pattern would be similar in some way, but different in many ways.

Primitive civilizations would have called the Blackpool pattern ... an "alien civilization".

Part 4.

Now, are these two patterns in the sand, which are impossible to reproduce, evidence of the existence of God?

If the pattern had been a bit different, would Primitive civilizations have said ... "God got it wrong?"

Or would Primitive civilizations have looked at the other random result, and said that that was ALSO proof of "God's Great Scheme"?

Or is it proof of one thing only ...

Provided you don't have to predict the outcome in advance ... no matter what the outcome is, you can look at it and say ... "This is what God intended"?

Now, hang on a minute ... I have to go and retrieve my lacrosse ball.

[albaqwerty]

What have you got against beaches????

Leave 'em alone and stop vandalising them with lacrosse balls!!

[snags]

What does it mean if I retrieve your ball off the beach and smashed your window with it?

[naomi24]

Blimey, Jayne. That's very profound - and it's only 10.15! :o)

[Old_Geezer]

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. So I'm unsure why you believe you have disproved the existence of God.

[joggerjayne]

snags ...

I doubt if you could do that. My window is quite a bit higher than the beach. I don't think you'd get enough height (unless you're Canadian).

alba ... actually, it would be hard to sopt a ball among the pebbles. Maybe I should use an orange one.

[redman41]

Thank God I'm an Atheist. :-)

[snags]

I meant 'theoretically'... as you did in your original post...

[joggerjayne]

naomi ... it all came to me this morning when I walked along the prom to get a paper.

O_G ... I just have, okay!

=0)

[naomi24]

A devine revelation!! It's a miracle! :o)

[joggerjayne]

LOL redman.

snags ... Aaah, right. So I don't need to open all my windows to prevent you breaking them.

Well, at least I'd get my ball back.

[pa___ul3]

JJ, I think, to resolve this, you should challenge god to an arm wrestle. If he doesn't show he doesn't exist or is a wimp for bottling an arm wrestle with a southern lass!

[triggerhippy]

why would it be impossible to throw another ball, are you tired?

[joggerjayne]

I could throw another ball, triggy ... but not to land in the same spot.

[albaqwerty]

Now you're talking about vandalising them with orange balls!!! ohh JJ, :)

[yogi-bear]

>>>>I know it's wrong, but just a got vision of JJ in a skimpy outfit playing Lacrosse :)

.......i betta go and have a cold shower eh?.....:0)

[joggerjayne]

pa_ul ... where would I post the challenge?

Pin it to the church notice board.

[joggerjayne]

Yogi ... you're 30 years too late for that to be an attractive image.

[The Builder]

The argument goes something like this: `I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, `for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'

`But,' says Man, `The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.'

`Oh dear,' says God, `I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly vanished in a puff of logic.

`Oh, that was easy,' says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets

himself killed on the next zebra crossing.”

........... Douglas Adams

[mccfluff]

i'm sure it is possible to throw another ball and have it land in the same spot, unlikely but possible

[pa___ul3]

just think it JJ, he can read your thoughts... all of them!!

Who'd have thought that the existence of god would be disproven thanks to Native Americans!