would you employ someone with a criminal record?
For instance, you wouldnt employ a convicted kiddie fiddler in a school or a convicted drug dealer in a chemist but what about people who have got a criminal record from years ago for example, violence or theft? (or even manslaughter) If there has been a sufficient time lapse to prove that the offences in question were one offs or that the offender had changed would you give them a chance at employment or do you believe that leopards dont change their spots and that anyone who has commited offences should be left to rot in jail OR do you believe that we all do bad things at some point in life and give them a job ?
wizard66 Fri 27/06/08 22:23
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I think everybody deserves a second chance.
Personally, I would give the job to the best candidate and the record wouldn't sway me one way or the other, debt already paid to society and all that.
Anyway, if truth be known ........ I don't have a criminal record
............ coz I didn't get caught .............
but I'm a changed man nowadays ..........................
(Confession is good for the soul .......... )
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I see nothing wrong with second chances. Many people who've committed crimes deserve a second chance. (NOT ALL) For me, personally it all depends on the crime that was committed. I've had this question in my sociology class. There's so much I'd like to say on this topic but I'm lazy to type my thoughts.
I would hire you Wizard. From reading your posts on here, you sound quite decent and hard working.
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It very much depends on the type of employment too.
As a funeral director I could not employ anybody who had been convicted for a theft offence, as I had an obligation to my clients - my staff had to enter peoples homes and we were entrusted with jewellery and so on.
I would have employed somebody convicted of joyriding - but I'm not sure he would have a driving job. :)
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I wouldn't hire you wizerd coz you are from stoke on trent and isn't that where shakespearerer come from and anyway I think you are bad timekeeper so youd be late.
Sorry you are not getting the job/ I'll hire the pole
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Yes I would employ somebody that had done wrong, I did plenty wrong years ago, and if I had not been given a fair crack of the whip, I would now be inside, just because we may have been a bit "Naughty" once or twice does not mean we can't fit in with the norm, and contribute to society.
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Awoo...thank you for your observation, but PLEASE type your thoughts
Ethal...what if the theft happened 20 years ago in an act of desperation?
Theland...Shakespeare obviously DID NOT come from Stoke but Sir Stanley Mathews, Robbie Williams and Anthea Turner did (ok, you win. Anthea Turner has totally taken Stoke OFF the map...hire the Pole, theres loads of them here, mostly bus drivers who havnt got a clue where they are going)
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I too believe that some people deserve a second chance, and depending upon the conviction, I would hire someone with a criminal record. However, having been in business, I would be reluctant to hire anyone who had been convicted of theft because I would always wonder if once a thief, always a thief. Unfair perhaps, but in all honesty, I know it would be a concern.
You still having problems with Polish bus drivers Wiz?
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haha, not reciantly namio no,
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Oh, that's good. Obviously picked up Polish then. :o)
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yeah!
A tin of mr Sheen polish....
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Ah, that's what I like to hear, Wiz. Always the academic
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Wiz - i don't like to rush things bit its time theat the vewry always did
I'm not going to rebeadfee on here but its not gfair to allow the otherswho are going to do anyway
My dfriend donna always askedafwter me but i dont k oe why and 5hen she eiedtwo weeks ago - i know its evrybody but it just feel s ******
once i was very violent
big shame -0 ---- very big
live wuithge the guilt
hate myself - hrt people
I know i ruined lives what right have i go t to live a hoappy life i f i hurt peopl;etzgtoiuy6ijypoktr h.;
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I would/do employ some with criminal records.....so long as they do the job assigned. Some have stolen due to drugs and alcohol; some youthful joy-riding and one actually burgled me when he was 15 with donned balaclava......he did confess and apologised when adult. Useless burglar as he only stole a kids watch......told him to fill pillow cases with all my junk next time.....saves me having a clear-out!
Material things can be replaced, reliable people cannot!
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Theland....what happened with your fingers? At 11.23 they typed quite well but at 2am they seem to have 'lost the plot'?
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My brother and I once stole some Apples from an Orchard on the way back from School one evening.
My brother went on to be a very respectable barrister, and later became part of the foreign office in the Bahamas.
The point I make Sir, is that we were both employed in the act of a theft.
Had we been caught, we would have of course paid the price for our crime, but we didn't.
There are a lot of people out there who have stolen things, and not been caught, but we all have the ability to change.
On my farm, I actually do employ people with a dubious past, the only difference being is that I watch these individuals closer than the rest.
It is far too easy to tar people with the same brush, but given a second chance I have found from experience that these criminals do once reformed end up being excellent employees.
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I didn't disclose my convictions when I got my current job although I told them once I had been employed for a while.
Everyone says that people deserve a second chance but
when it comes down to their business and livelihood very few are prepared to risk employing someone who has been on the wrong side of the law, especially with theft or drug charges like me.
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I'd say it would depend - on what the conviction was for and what the job was about. For example, I wouldn't employ a convicted paedophile in a kiddies' nursery, but they may be OK working on a building site. I used to be a bit biased towards the criminal fraternity, but now I believe everyone should be given a chance to improve their life. I've met some really nice ex-bank robbers in my time and I'd employ them now. There are a few types, though, that I wouldn't trust, no matter what.
Code1, you got a farm? What sort? I've got one, too and up till now I think I was the only farmer on AB.
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I once made the mistake of giving a thief the benefit of the doubt, along with a job - and when her landlord was on her tail, I even gave her money to pay her rent - but she let me down and my business suffered quite badly. I sacked her, obviously, but because she had four children, I didn't take it any further - but I would never employ a thief again. Once bitten and all that!
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