Is 'An eye for an eye' really a good concept to live by?
randomater Tue 22/04/08 18:22
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an eye for an eye is always taken out of context. People use it as they want to, it doesnt mean if you hit me, I can hit you back. It was originally meant to say that the punishment should be exactly equal to the crime, or that payment should be of equal value to the goods...etc
In Christianity, Jesus criticises an eye for an eye as did Gandhi!
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No it's not. It's moronic and immoral.
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i was refering more to the crime and punnishment aspect of the phrase!
what I mean is do you agree with it?
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sorry randomater,if i were to quote any of my examples....i'd be crucified on here!
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A man kills another accidentally, Will you execute that man?
It is a moronic concept.
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As long as the punishment doesn't involve breaking other moral codes, like murder etc. I wouldn't say that killing someone as a punishment is acceptable, although surgical or medical castration would be fine.
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robb..if someone sh1ts on your head do you say ,thank's for the hat??
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so then you agree with capitol punnishment?
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I would agree with anything that was just violence for violences sake. A flogging would achieve nothing other than pain, something to stop a pervert raping someone would have a use.
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sorry i'm bit thick and didnt understand your last comment!
could you explain what you meant?
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basic answer is no, I dont agree with capital punishment.
I would not like to see the death penalty reintroduced, and whilst I am aware lots of sex crimes don't actually involve a desire for actual sex, I am pro castration. I think these men should have their gonads removed (if severe or repeat offenders) and administered depo-provera to lower their testosterone levels.
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Having spent time at Her Majesty's Pleasure with an assortment of offenders from murderers and sex offenders to petty thieves and plastic gangstas I have to say NO to an eye for an eye. There are too many variables to think that one size is going to fit all. One guy I knew was serving life for murder. But the background to his case was that when he was in his 30's he came across the address of a man that had sexually abused him as a boy. He killed him.
It could be argued that he should have gone to the police etc i know, but the point is, should the state then execute him? I would argue no, it shouldnt.
For people that DO demand an eye for an eye, then it would seem an odd sort of karma but prison generally has its own way of fitting the punishment to the crime. I have seen child abusers get a good kicking, thieves going without tobacco or other luxeries because they have had privaliges taken away, granny bashers living in absolute fear and selfish smackheads getting no sympathy for there withdrawels whatsoever from the prison medical staff.
Maybe life has its own way of deciding the punishment??
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'An eye for an eye' . . .
. . . is that anything like blind justice <"?
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I believe that capital punishment is very necessary for any peaceful society. But long before that Justice system has to be fair and just. Wizard’s example is good in that sense. Had that person been prosecuted for abusing a child then once grown up that child wouldn’t have to kill him. Had that person known that he would be punished severely then he wouldn’t have abused the child in the first place.
For certain crimes imprisonment is not practical. Because it is more like a punishment to the family of that person than to himself. Absence of father, no body to run the house and so many other things. Then you have all the facilities in there and for many it is like a holiday with the all the facilities paid for. In that regard I believe it is better to flog that person where that pain would deter him in the future and he would be free straight away to get on with his life. As far as death penalty is concerned then you should only ask someone who’s loved one was killed unlawfully by someone that how the killer should be treated.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stori es/march/13/newsid_2543000/2543277.stm
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Yes but you only have to ask the family of a rape victim and they'll want the death penalty too.
Which is not an eye for an eye
This is why we don't set punishments by the desires of the victim
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