Eyetie, In Eastenders, Whats The Problem...

[trt]

What the hell is wrong with it being said?

And why is, Poms, Yanks, Paddy's, Jocks etc, OK?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4110772/It-disgusting-racist-comment-EastEnders-fans-outraged-Mick-Carter-uses-derogatory-slur-Italians.html

[Islay]

Eyetie was used as an insult in days gone by. I suppose it is the manner it is used in and the way it is used.

[Baldric]

From your Link

//It is described as 'offensive British slang' on Collins Dictionary//

[andy-hughes]

This is going to polarise views between -

"It's wrong, and offensive ... "

and "It's not wrong, get a life ..."

I would agree with Islay - language is about delivery, intent, and context

[ummmm]

I've never heard of it so those offended have just pointed out to me.

It is about context. I call my Italian mate WOP. Would I say that to anyone else...not a chance!

[dannyk13]

trt
//And why is, Poms, Yanks, Paddy's, Jocks etc, OK//
Because they are not considered to be offensive.

[andy-hughes]

This does come back to the 'ownership' of the proverbial 'N' word.

Used between young black men, it is seen as harmless, but a white man using it could probably expect to be on the receiving end of a sternly worded solicitor's letter ... or some similar response.

[Gromit]

Eastenders is watched by eyediots.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// I would agree with Islay - language is about delivery, intent, and context ///

So if it is used in an endearing fashion then it is ok?

ie "I am just nipping down to that rather nice Pa**i corner shop", is quite OK?

But "You Poms make me sick" could be construed a racist insult?

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //So if it is used in an endearing fashion then it is ok? //

Another day - another example of the 'So' rule!

[ummmm]

Nipping to the P*ki shop is not ok.

I was brought up innocently using that term. My kids have never heard it and if I said it to them they wouldn't have a clue what I was talking about.

I don't care being referred to as a Paddy, it's not offensive imo.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// This does come back to the 'ownership' of the proverbial 'N' word. ///

/// Used between young black men, it is seen as harmless, but a white man using it could probably expect to be on the receiving end of a sternly worded solicitor's letter ... or some similar response. ///

It must be so nice to belong to a race of people who still have the freedom of expression.

[ummmm]

Andy - stop with the 'so' rule. It's just something people say and means nothing. Just like 'basically' and 'literally'

[ummmm]

AOG - you aren't stupid. Using the 'N' word is owning it.

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// Nipping to the P*ki shop is not ok. ///

That is not what I said.

/// I don't care being referred to as a Paddy, it's not offensive imo. ///

Perhaps you are not over sensitive?

[andy-hughes]

ummmm - //Andy - stop with the 'so' rule. It's just something people say and means nothing. Just like 'basically' and 'literally' //

It is just a little light-hearted teasing, but no, it is not the same as those expressions.

In this context, prefacing a post with the word 'So ... ' means that the poster has either not read what they are replying to, or they have read it, and not understood it, or they are going to make a point that is utterly unconnected with the post to which they are replying.

AOG is a master at it, which is why is why I tease him when he does it.

Don't worry - no-one dies!!!

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //It must be so nice to belong to a race of people who still have the freedom of expression. //

It is, thank you, I am sure you appreciate it as much as I do, but that is why black people like to own words that are used to denigrate and offend them on a regular basis.

[anotheoldgit]

This 'P' word? I can understand it being offensive when used addressing someone else from the Indian Sub-Continent, who is not from Pakistan and takes great offence at being classed as a Pakistani, but for a true Pakistani, it is just an abbreviation to a word, just as Brits, Scots, Aussies, Poles, Ruskis etc etc.

[youngmafbog]

Supposedly a term that has fallen out of use, except I have heard it often.

It would be interesting to see how many of the keyboard warriers on their favourite tool of the devil were Italian. I'd wager very few if any.

[dannyk13]

Some words are offensive no matter in which context they are used.Eyetie is one of them.