D9 - yes thats what i mean..it makes you even more incredulous...because its as though they think you will fall for any old crap...and that they dont care for you enough to want to put things right...they just want to save their own skin - no matter how stupid and unlikely it is.
and even if you let it go - you dont forgive or forget - because they are not sorry
when you are digging yourself a hole - at some point you have to show some backbone and sense and just hold your hands up
ill bet that bloke even now defends himself to everyone.
as with robin cook, he diffused and calmed the situation by coming clean, without people losing even more respect for him by squirming and lying



