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indefinable | 17:09 Wed 01st Jun 2016 | ChatterBank
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WITHIN the next week I should have received and returned my postal vote for the EU referendum.

I shall be casting it for us to remain members of the EU.

Having voted the same way in the previous referendum, I am convinced that membership has benefitted both our own country and others in the union.

We have moved from being described as the ‘sick man of Europe’ to now having its strongest economy.

During the bad times many Britons were only too pleased to accept the opportunity to work elsewhere in the EU (remember Auf Wiedersehen Pet?).

It has also been great to see so many young people study and work in other countries and pensioners benefitting from retirement in warmer climates with a lower cost of living than we have here.

Most importantly, I am convinced that working together and becoming financially interdependent has overcome our history of resorting to war to settle our differences.

Current difficulties, such as the refugee crisis and inequality amongst peoples, can only be dealt with effectively if we continue to work together.

It may take longer that way but solutions will be more effective and sustainable.

I would urge others to join me in looking for the UK to lead, rather than leave. Of course, as with all institutions, there is room for improvement in the way the EU works but we will not be able to improve it from the outside.

BRIAN CLEMENTS
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“According to this Brexit would break UK” Win-win then! All credit to indefinable for being open and honest. I, of course, will not be telling anybody how I propose to vote ;-). Just a few comments: “We have moved from being described as the ‘sick man of Europe’ to now having its strongest economy.” That’s despite being in the EU, not because of...
18:09 Wed 01st Jun 2016

Yet another one happy to hand over control of the UK to Europe.
I'm sure the Greek economy and Albanian immigrants will be overjoyed at your stance.
As for leading, we're a distant third behind France and Germany and it will ever be thus.
Any improvements have had little to do with the EU, much due to opting out of whatever they were inflicting whenever we could.

A few of our citizens working abroad is all very nice to have, even though more of other EU members come here, but is hardly any reason to sway a vote. Especially since you weren't stopped from applying to work in a foreign country anyway. Ditto foreign study.

Current difficulties are only the present edge of the string of difficulties the Union has created or made worse. One can work with other countries without being one with them and consequently being dictated to by them.

I would urge others to join me in looking for the UK to extract ourselves from this predicament by leaving rather than being to afraid of change and sticking with what you have known of late.

The EU is clearly broken and the lack of improvement over the decades clearly shows there is little to no chance of having an effect from inside, especially after indicating we don't have the gumption to go. The EU needs replacing, but the best we can do is set an example and lead the way out.

With you there OG.
Did you mean to post your real name on here or have you nicked your post off facebook?
I just thought he was being brave and standing up to be counted.
yup that’s the facebook chappie....not sure its the OP though....
I'm not sure I am being brave OG, but my name is Mike and I am voting to stay as well !
That's the SNP threat, but we know that the Scots knew it wasn't a wise move last time they were asked. How likely is the result of a second go change if it's shown that it's not as bad as the fearmongers claimed after a vote to exit ? Especially as the Scottish economy has been shown not to be as strong as the SNP claimed last time.
Mike Clements ?
Rings bells twice it seems.


Well everyone has the right to vote as they see fit , Mr Clements and/or Indefinable included.

Ding dong!
Og...I was in school with a Mike Clements !

I was at school with a Mike (or 3)
I've been on stage with a Mike (or 3). Does that count ?
I returned my postal vote today, there was a big cross in the out box.
“According to this Brexit would break UK”

Win-win then!

All credit to indefinable for being open and honest. I, of course, will not be telling anybody how I propose to vote ;-). Just a few comments:

“We have moved from being described as the ‘sick man of Europe’ to now having its strongest economy.”

That’s despite being in the EU, not because of it. Had we gone along with the EU’s proudest achievement (the single currency) the story would have been very different indeed.

“During the bad times many Britons were only too pleased to accept the opportunity to work elsewhere in the EU (remember Auf Wiedersehen Pet?).”

People have always gone abroad to work (and many still do so, outside the EU). This will continue should we leave. The difference will be that we will be able to refuse admission to those who have nothing to contribute.

“It has also been great to see so many young people study and work in other countries and pensioners benefitting from retirement in warmer climates with a lower cost of living than we have here.”

Ditto. I don’t know why there is this widespread belief that, should we leave the EU, all movement of people will cease.

“Current difficulties, such as the refugee crisis and inequality amongst peoples, can only be dealt with effectively if we continue to work together.”

The UK does not have much of a refugee crisis. Much of it has been caused by the EU refusing to properly police its external borders and allowing illegal migrants to roam all over the continent courtesy of the ridiculous Schengen Agreement.

“I would urge others to join me in looking for the UK to lead..”

The UK has not, does not and never will lead in the EU. Germany leads the EU. It is designed principally by them, for them. The other nations are cannon fodder. The UK is consistently outvoted in the EU Parliament almost every time it opposes a new measure.

“Of course, as with all institutions, there is room for improvement in the way the EU works…”

Leading contender for this year’s “Understatement of the Year” Competition.
“…but we will not be able to improve it from the outside.”

And we can’t improve it from the inside either (see above).

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