No Question, Which Is Why This Isn't In News

[Bathsheba]

but just want to say Respect.


https://www.facebook.com/ManchesterEveningNews/posts/10153563340017060?fref=nf&pnref=story

[-Talbot-]

For those scared of FB.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/whalley-range-crash-funeral-mosque-11289376

[-Talbot-]

Looks like another show of misogyny to me.

[Bathsheba]

Thanks for doing link, Talby

Baths
x x x

[Bathsheba]

To answer your misogyny concerns...

" It was one of the biggest funeral I been to in my life ☝
May they sleep tight
Those who are asking about why there was no women there or mother's of the boys to say their farewell

Firstly as mentioned before the women had a special service around 11am where the women pay their respect, the reason for this separation was because this funeral was predicted to be a large one beforehand so due to this they kept the service separate
the mothers did say their final good bye as we have mentioned there was a service earlier than this one

[-Talbot-]

It's blatant misogyny, Bathy.

[ummmm]

Women are not allowed to attend funerals with men regardless of how big a turnout is expected.

[Gromit]

Segregation at muslim funerals

[ummmm]

A Muslim lad who works for us recently lost his baby. The mother couldn't even attend that. I assume they are just following tradition because they are quite liberal.

[ladybirder]

As if it is not already heartbreaking enough for a mother to lose a much loved son, to compound that grief by not being allowed to attend his funeral is downright cruel IMO.

[anneasquith]

These mothers , were allowed to mourn as is the practice of their chosen religion. Its not that many years ago that women in the catholic church never went to the graveside at funerals. Just another excuse for some abers to "" have a go "" at Muslims. :-(

[naomi24]

Orthodox Jewish women don't attend funerals either. Islam emulates Judaism in lots of ways.

[Islay]

annea, I agree, I was at a funeral recently for staunch prespertyan (sp) and women were not allowed at the graveside either.

[anneasquith]

So do we question other religions where women don't attend the graveside at funerals ?

[naomi24]

Islay, are you sure they were Presbyterian?

[Islay]

yup but very religious, the whole service was about burning in hell and damnation and not a celebration of the deceased life.

[Prudie]

I think it's an issue because for many women it's not their 'chosen' religion it's their lot in life. You have to be pretty determined to change your religion whatever your sex if you're born into a staunch family or society.

[ummmm]

True, Prudie, my mum was dating a Muslim man for years but he'd secretly converted to Christianity but wouldn't tell his family. A grown man, a pharmacist. You can only imagine how much harder it would be for a woman.

[-Talbot-]

Can I ask all you 'ooh look at me I'm not the least bit racist me'

Have you bothered to interact with many Muslim women and asked them their views on segregation and being subservient?


Of course non of you would invent a fictional Muslim friend .... would you?

[-Talbot-]

As much as I hate nominations ... Prudie for best answer.

[ummmm]

I've never actually spoke to a Muslim woman, as far as I know, a few Muslim men but they aren't strict Muslims, that's why I mentioned 'traditions' when it came to funerals rather than religion.