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Chelsea Fc 'paid Me £50,000 Over Abuse'
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The plot thickens. It now looks as if Chelsea bribed a former player, not to say anything about his abuse !
Bloody disgraceful.
The plot thickens. It now looks as if Chelsea bribed a former player, not to say anything about his abuse !
Bloody disgraceful.
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When this type of discussion comes up, I am always astounded at the compete inability of some posters to stop looking at things from behind their keyboard, and take just a few seconds to think about it from the victim's perspective. This was a young man whose dream was to be a footballer, and he had already entered the dog-eat-dog environment where the favour of...
14:14 Fri 02nd Dec 2016
jno - it may have been, but in the circumstances, any chicanery by Chelsea would only add to the speed with which their reputation is disappearing around the bend.
They may look like they are taking the moral high ground in abandoning the 'confidentiality agreement', and would doubtless wish to be seen as such, the millionaire club cleaning up its own house - but in reality they have no choice.
It will be interesting to see if the person or persons who were party to this morally repugnant behaviour are still connected to the club.
Chances are they won't stay that way for long!
They may look like they are taking the moral high ground in abandoning the 'confidentiality agreement', and would doubtless wish to be seen as such, the millionaire club cleaning up its own house - but in reality they have no choice.
It will be interesting to see if the person or persons who were party to this morally repugnant behaviour are still connected to the club.
Chances are they won't stay that way for long!
now listen, don't get me wrong ... child sexual abuse is thoroughly reprehensible and needs to be stamped out and the perpetrators brought to book. paying people off is dreadful too
however in this case, this person decided to accept a large sum of money not to talk about it took the money but didn't keep up his end of the bargain. If he thought paying him off was such a terrible thing to do, why didn't he instead refuse the money?
however in this case, this person decided to accept a large sum of money not to talk about it took the money but didn't keep up his end of the bargain. If he thought paying him off was such a terrible thing to do, why didn't he instead refuse the money?
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Bednobs....(12:05 ) I, like you, are far from happy that he took the money.
But he went to the Police, in 2014 and was told to "go back to Chelsea"
So the scope of this inquiry widens by the day. Why didn't the Police act properly ? This was 2014, not 1974.
All this pouring of cold water on this chaps story won't wash, but I am not in anyway surprised that the fatuous argument has arisen....I have been expecting it to.
If he was abused, and I see no reason to doubt him, then the football club was at fault....first for allowing the abuse to take place, and secondly for trying to hush the affair up....guilty on both counts as far as I am concerned.
There is a wider issue here. If this kind of thing was endemic, and it is fast appearing that it was, then the culture in football at the time discouraged any young lad to complain, for fear that he would be ridiculed, and not be believed.
And who knows, perhaps that culture still exists.
But he went to the Police, in 2014 and was told to "go back to Chelsea"
So the scope of this inquiry widens by the day. Why didn't the Police act properly ? This was 2014, not 1974.
All this pouring of cold water on this chaps story won't wash, but I am not in anyway surprised that the fatuous argument has arisen....I have been expecting it to.
If he was abused, and I see no reason to doubt him, then the football club was at fault....first for allowing the abuse to take place, and secondly for trying to hush the affair up....guilty on both counts as far as I am concerned.
There is a wider issue here. If this kind of thing was endemic, and it is fast appearing that it was, then the culture in football at the time discouraged any young lad to complain, for fear that he would be ridiculed, and not be believed.
And who knows, perhaps that culture still exists.
AOG...listen to the testimony of these men.
They were traumatised by the attacks.
They desperately wanted a career in football.
And some were threatened if they had dared to say anything, some of them with violence to themselves and their families.
And there was another aspect to all of this......they were desperate not to be thought that they were in way to blame at all.
Its a vicious circle AOG, and its one that we have seen time and time again.
They were traumatised by the attacks.
They desperately wanted a career in football.
And some were threatened if they had dared to say anything, some of them with violence to themselves and their families.
And there was another aspect to all of this......they were desperate not to be thought that they were in way to blame at all.
Its a vicious circle AOG, and its one that we have seen time and time again.
When this type of discussion comes up, I am always astounded at the compete inability of some posters to stop looking at things from behind their keyboard, and take just a few seconds to think about it from the victim's perspective.
This was a young man whose dream was to be a footballer, and he had already entered the dog-eat-dog environment where the favour of the coach is slightly above a visit from Jesus Christ.
So, as a young man, you are in the thrall of someone who has the power of life and death over your lifelong dream - are you not going to go along with whatever he says, surrounded as you are by a 'man' culture where the notion of 'moaning' is an instant black mark?
And the higher echelons who employ your abuser - are you likely to feel that you will find belief and support from them, an apprentice believed over a seasoned (and valuable) professional associate of the club?
And when you do go to the police, you are disbelieved and sent away.
And after all this - your dream about to be ruined, no-one to turn to, no-one to confide in because you are so ashamed you probably wouldn't tell your shadow, much less your parents, someone offers you a life-changing sum to make it all stop.
What would you do?
And having lived with the shame, you finally get the courage to speak out, and what do you get?
Strangers who think you got a good deal, you are welching on the agreement, you should have spoken before, you are after more money ... and so on and so cynically and un-empathetically and coldly on and on and on.
I think you cynics should all have a good look at the entire picture, not just 'the money' and see if you can find a little bit of compassion in your calculating, superior, cold hearts.
This was a young man whose dream was to be a footballer, and he had already entered the dog-eat-dog environment where the favour of the coach is slightly above a visit from Jesus Christ.
So, as a young man, you are in the thrall of someone who has the power of life and death over your lifelong dream - are you not going to go along with whatever he says, surrounded as you are by a 'man' culture where the notion of 'moaning' is an instant black mark?
And the higher echelons who employ your abuser - are you likely to feel that you will find belief and support from them, an apprentice believed over a seasoned (and valuable) professional associate of the club?
And when you do go to the police, you are disbelieved and sent away.
And after all this - your dream about to be ruined, no-one to turn to, no-one to confide in because you are so ashamed you probably wouldn't tell your shadow, much less your parents, someone offers you a life-changing sum to make it all stop.
What would you do?
And having lived with the shame, you finally get the courage to speak out, and what do you get?
Strangers who think you got a good deal, you are welching on the agreement, you should have spoken before, you are after more money ... and so on and so cynically and un-empathetically and coldly on and on and on.
I think you cynics should all have a good look at the entire picture, not just 'the money' and see if you can find a little bit of compassion in your calculating, superior, cold hearts.
OK, so lets have a reality check.
This is an allegation yet once again we have people on here lynching them up.
As you all know I deplore Kiddie fiddlers, but lets not have trial by media. Let's persue them properly and lock up the scum that carry out these activities and anyone who aides and abets.
This is an allegation yet once again we have people on here lynching them up.
As you all know I deplore Kiddie fiddlers, but lets not have trial by media. Let's persue them properly and lock up the scum that carry out these activities and anyone who aides and abets.
YMB - //As you all know I deplore Kiddie fiddlers, but lets not have trial by media. //
Good to know, and no let's not.
And while we're not having a trial by media, let's not have a trial by AB post, where this young man is being branded as foolish, cynical, stupid, money-grabbing and a possible liar by some on here.
Good to know, and no let's not.
And while we're not having a trial by media, let's not have a trial by AB post, where this young man is being branded as foolish, cynical, stupid, money-grabbing and a possible liar by some on here.
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