64 year old, scales Pentonville Prison walls.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.telegraph....g-makeshift-rope.html

It's amazing almost from tales of the Great Escape, Colditz or Alcatraz, here we have a violent 64 year old murderer who has fashioned a make shift rope and escaped a top security prison by scaling the walls.

He has already previously escaped from an open prison, this is to be expected because they seem to come and go as they wish from these establishments, but Pentonville? You couldn't make it up.

/// One member of staff at Pentonville Prison said: "He's done this before, he'll be back." ///

Oh well that is alright then, we can now sleep comfortably in our beds.

[pdq1]

Maybe he has served his time for the original offence and just wants to be a free man. With murderes nowadays get less than 10 years nearly 40 years he has served is beyond comprehension.

[Haggisdj]

When he realises that prisoners get better treatment than pensioners in this country he'll be banging on the door to be let back in by Monday...

[flip_flop]

I found the length of his sentance a bit odd as well. Given the length of time he has been in prison I assumed his crime wasn't just a "simple" murder. However, if it was, it does beg the question how excrement like Chindamo are released are a relatively short time.

Is one murdering scumbag's crime worse than another murdering scumbag's crime?

[sandyRoe]

I think the escaper had already been released but failed to obey conditions set by the parole board.

[boxtops]

It said on the radio this morning that he's dangerous - perhaps they can't let him out.

[jake-the-peg]

I thought that he seemed inside a long time

//Is one murdering scumbag's crime worse than another murdering scumbag's crime? //

Yes - certainly

You can hardly compare one end of the spectrum say an abused wife who finally snaps and knifes her vicious husband with say Fred West.

And there's all sorts of levels in between - was there premeditaion or was it a spur of the moment? was the victim particularly vulnerable? etc.

Remember though the case of Charles Bronson

http://en.wikipedia.o...ronson_%28prisoner%29

Sentenced to 7 years in 1974 he's spent less than 2 months free as he's been continually violent and dangerous throughout

So I guess it's hard to know from such brief inormation

[Duncer]

True JTP, I am familiar with the case of a very young guy who was serving two years and, because of his beahviour inside, (racism, attacking guys from ethnic minorities and staff, and staff assaults, he is now serving 18, not ot mention awaiting trial for stabbing staff.

Good enough for the little Nazi worshipping prick, but how did it come to this?

[FredPuli43]

Which murderers nowadays get less than 10 years?

[ummmm]

None, as far as I've read, Fred.

[DaisyNonna]

Ineptitude is the word i was looking for.

[FredPuli43]

Quite ummm. The sentencing guideline for the least serious murder is 15 years to be served before being eligible for release (12 years if the offender was unnder 18 at the time of the offence). Then it's 18 to 25, 25 to 30 and whole life, according to the gravity of the murder.

[dotty.]

he's used more than a rope, gravity isn't easy to combat with just a bit of tied together fabric, he's probably used a length o metal to act as a grappling hook to get a grip over the wall, but how has he physically managed to climb up the wall i he's 64? for goodness sake what have they been feeding the man? never mind the lack of at least one pair o eyes noticing his ascent and descent! surely the prison wall he climbed over isn't street fronted? how do they know that's how he got out anyway? if they saw him go they have to have caught up with him, I've seen enough Garrison's Gorillas to know he probably pinched a guard uniform and simply walked out using a German accent.

[ummmm]

Lol Dotty....

Fred - I think they might be mistaking it for manslaughter.

[sandyRoe]

He's back behind bars now.

http://uk.news.yahoo....rested-190122588.html

[mike11111]

This man is a year younger than me. I can't even take the sheets off the bed, yet alone make a rope and climb over a wall. Good luck to him.