Europe in a Nutshell

[Steve.5]

http://princerupertsc...fully-understand.html



simples init ;0)

[MoonRocker]

Not bad steve but I think I'd put uk a lot lower, well in terms of getting dumped on anyway, probably about right it terms of funding!

[modeller]

We use to have something similar in the army where the Hooray Henrys
were at the top. You can guess who were at the bottom.

[jake-the-peg]

No - the UK would be on the next door phone pole with it's head up the rear end of a big fat one wearing the stars and stripes

[boxtops]

Upside pole for who actually picks up the sh!t next door IMO

[modeller]

I don't know if we can entirely blame Labour, its true under Maggie Thatcher 1979-90 there were only an average of 3,000 asylum seekers each year but under Major it went up to 40,000 and under Blair by 2003 it had jumped to 83,000 each year. It seems to me since Maggie Thatcher all our governments have been soft.

http://www.google.co....d=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:72

[jake-the-peg]

You on the right Thread Modeller?

(Oh and by the way your logic rather assums that the level of asylum seekers has remained constant in that time which would be a rather foolish assumption for all sorts of reasons!)

[FredPuli43]

Was the cartoon about asylum seekers? Blimey, they're subtle, these cartoonists.

[modeller]

Sorry I should have put this in AOG Bursting point.
I'm not assuming anything I'm quoting statistics for the last two governments . I've no doubt there are very good international reasons for the variations and blaming Labour alone for the immigration mess we are in is not borne out statistically. However I do think Gordon Brown was at fault for allowing an open door to the new Eastern
European members of the EU.

[youngmafbog]

Up the Jacksie of the stars and stripes? I think those days a re long gone. It is simply the call of the pro Euro's trying to scaremonger.

Europe is a lost cause, its pretty obvious now, just a matter of time before it collapses. Banks are on full alert for the Greek's legging it (or being pushed out by the Hun)

[anotheoldgit]

Cutting off the two lower rungs would give us the cross of Lorraine, Britain, Germany and France, that's all we need.

[emmie]

i reckon we have more bird poop than that, not far enough down the ladder.

[modeller]

#Cutting off the two lower rungs would give us the cross of Lorraine, Britain, Germany and France, that's all we need.#

I don't know being tied to any other country is a good idea . A free trade area as we had under EFTA has a lot to recommend it but closer ties creates the sort of problems that we have today ,where we have little control over our legal system and where our culture can be overruled by an alien culture. We might be able to work with the Germans but rarely with the French. That's not to say we can.t work on single projects e.g. building Concorde and going to war in Libya but being tied to them is impossible.

[emmie]

modeller, shame they built the channel tunnel then.

[modeller]

I think the tunnel is a brilliant example where we were able to cooperate on a single project and one where Brussels was not involved . It is also an example of how free trade contracts can work where not too many imposed rules and regulations are applied. It didn't need the EURO or the EU just plain business contracts.

[emmie]

just that it's easier to get to us now...

[modeller]

Yes and because of our soft pro Europe governments once here we can't rid of them.

[jake-the-peg]

Oh you love the tunnel now because Brussells wasn't involved?

If they had been you'd be reminding us all how much it cost how late it was how so many people lost their shirts to it and how it opens up Britains broders to illegal immigration and rabid foxes!

[emmie]

personally i would shut it down, the tunnel that is, and the borders closed to more people who want to bludge off Britain.