Housing Paradox

[pdq1]

Should we build housing estates equating to the size of Birmingham every 4 years or should net immigration be cut from the 250,000 to near zero each year? At the moment extra housing seems the answer!

[tonyav]

No the green spaces are already shrinking or disappearing as it is.

[lozzer50]

i agree with tony the green areas are getting less and less

[hideaway]

Why should we build houses for people who do not belong here? There are plenty of our own people who need housing.

[emmie]

no, unless they can put them some place other than in England. We won't have any green space left before long.

[sandyRoe]

Immigration has been going on for a while now. Where are all these housing estates full of foreigners?

[emmie]

sandy, around our way, looks like the back of beyond now.

[New Judge]

Er..., let me think.

Almost all of the social housing in London's tower Hamlets and Newham. Most of the Lozelles district of Birmingham. The Cowley area of Oxford. Virtually all of the estates in Bradford and Oldham. Near to where I live there is an estate where virtually every inhabitant is of Eastern European origin. any council estates in Bristol house large numbers of Somalis. Most of Brixton and Stockwell social housing is occupied by foreigners. Eastern Europeans and many Portuguese and Spanish abound in towns such as Aylesbury and High Wycombe. That's without thinking too much. I could go on.

Apart from housing an equally important matter is services and infrastructure. Many areas are short of primary school places. Hospitals are groaning under the strain of ever increasing population. Transport in London is continually on a knife-edge. Water is scarce (though much of this problem lies with the ineptitude and/or greed of the water companies). Roads are packed to capacity. Money for welfare and benefits is scarce.

No, extra housing is not the answer. A radical reduction in immigration and (perish the thought) an actual decrease in population is.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail....year-immigration.html

The following figures are from the official Leicestershire County Council Census of 1991

· The ratio of adults to children also varied
considerably from 28 children per 100
adults in the White group to 106 children
for each 100 adults in the Bangladeshi
group.

· The average White household had 2.5
members, compared with 5.5 persons in a
Bangladeshi household and 4.2 persons in
an average Pakistani household. The
average Asian household had 4 members.

· The Black community had the highest
incidence of one person households with
28.5% of Black African households and
24.5% of Black Caribbean households being
occupied by a single person. In the Indian
community just 4.7% of households were
occupied by one person.

· Just over 40% of households headed by
someone of Bangladeshi origin were
occupied by three or more adults, with one or
more children. This compared with the
average in Leicestershire of just 6.2%

http://www.leics.gov....c_minority_groups.pdf

[pdq1]

AOG I daresay things have changed a lot since 1991 mostly for the worse. Populations whether they are virus or human ones tend to increase exponentially especially when the host has no defences.

[Old_Geezer]

Additional housing is a short term 'sticking plaster' fix to solve an existing problem of not enough accommodation.

Preventing population growth by clamping down on immigration (and dissuading folk from having more than 2 offspring) is a longer term solution.

I don't see this as being an either/or situation. What you have to watch out for is that the mistakes of the past do not simply get repeated, and the short term fix allow you to ignore the real issue: or pass it on to the next government.