If Ever There Was A Case For The Death Penalty In The UK

[Philtaz]

Surely this is it?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...mbridgeshire-18070507

Waste of taxpayers money. Bullet through the back of the head and a shallow ditch would be more appropriate IMHO.

Helmet on, incoming..............

[jno]

no, it's a case for life meaning life, though.

[rowanwitch]

life being life and no special protection from other prisoners

[penelope2]

Beating, kicking, flogging then a bullet in the head. he only got a 17 year sentence !! Bl**dy disgrace.

[Philtaz]

And of course, another damning indictment on social services et al who had plenty of 'missed opportunities' to save this poor wretch.

Someone high up will doubtless be sacked after a 'review of all the circumstances' and there'll be the obligatory wrongful dismissal case with a large payout at the end.

Cynical? Moi?

You bet your life I am

[tonyav]

Why bother with the shallow ditch, leave his body for the crows to peck at imo.

[jno]

disagree with the last bit, rowan, the state has to take responsibility for people in its care. The idea of letting other prisoners mete out rough justice is repellent to me. What might they be inside for themselves, that I should want them acting as the law in my name?

[flump1]

He should be left in a room and have the crap beaten out of him and then he might feel the absolute terror the child did ....scumbag.

[sir.prize]

56 previous offences too. I'm with Philtaz on this one. Bullet/ditch or swing him. Little Tyler didn't have a choice. Cannot agree with the No Capital Punishment brigade.

[rowanwitch]

I said no special protection i.e not solitary all prisoners should have basic safety needs met...

[ummmm]

He'll has to serve a minimum of 16 years 119 days, from today. Wonder what prison they'll send him to. One where he'll be looking over his shoulder 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

^^^ I prefer that punishment. Wife and children beaters tend not to like facing up to men. He's got 16 years of it...

[chi-chi66]

Hopefully ummmm.....this type of person never get what they deserve.

[bazwillrun]

He should be removed from the gene pool and pronto, he wont be missed

[alan-r]

no prisoner already inside likes a child beater he'll find that out soon enough

[ummmm]

Cats - No child killer ever has an easy time in prsion.

[Davethedog]

This is a case were shooting is to good for him.

Put him in the general prison population.

[Ric.ror]

I agree Philtaz
And Baby P and too many others

[chi-chi66]

remember what happened to Ian Huntley




http://news.bbc.co.uk...i/england/8579226.stm

[FredPuli43]

A 'textbook case'; it is so often the partner who is not the father of the child who beats it or kills it; and it's a pity that social services didn't learn from the 'textbook'.

Depends what you want the death penalty to do. If it is seriously thought that this man, evidenly in a fit of violent anger, would ever think 'if I happen to kill the child I'll die ' and not embark on the beating,then that is a thought which is erroneous. If it were true, then there'd have been no murders when we had the death penalty, for every sane murderer would have been deterred.

If it's meant as retribution, "an eye for an eye", then there's an argument, though perhaps not one supported by Christianity.

If it's seen as cost-cutting, that killing the murderer is cheaper than jailing him, that depends on finance only, which is hardly an argument in itself for hanging someone. It can't stand as the only reason.

If it's seen as preventative, that he won't be able to repeat the crime, then that is achieved by jailing him until such time, perhaps only his death, when that is no longer a risk.

It's quite likely that this man was convicted of intending gbh , which led to the death, rather than intending to kill. Either intent is sufficient for murder. When we had the death penalty for all murders, whether the convicted person was hanged or not depended on the opinion of the Home Secretary. With this argument over intent, this man might have been spared. Had he had a premeditated intent or established plan to kill, he would probably would not have been.

[Philtaz]

Depends what you want the death penalty to do.
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Quite simply in this case I want it to rid society of someone who has murdered a defenceless child in barbaric, tortuous circumstances and is beyond or not worthy of rehabilitation, who thus gives up all rights to life IMHO.

[Philtaz]

That edict ought to also be applied to Steven Barker, Ian Huntley and Roy Whiting, to name but a few.