Is all this acceptable in 2012?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail....-live-M4-flyover.html

Whereas it is a pity that in 2012 Britain, some poor unfortunates are forced to sleep on the streets, I don't see why we should allow these illegal immigrants, to litter our areas.

/// ‘I asked the council what they were going to do about it. They said they had delivered a letter translated into Punjabi about a voluntary repatriation scheme. Surprise, surprise – it doesn’t seem to have done the trick.’ ///

Perhaps instead of lashing out aid to India, we should use this money to provide humane accommodation for these asylum seekers, until such times when the immigration authorities can get round to vetting them, and consequently sending them back?

[Gromit]

I wonder if we can consider the 1100 ex servicemen who sleep rough to be 'litter'? Or would that be offensive?

[emmie]

starbuckone, neither am i, and for those who say well we should provide homes, shelter, i would say put your money where your mouth is. There are shelters for the homeless as already been pointed out, some chose not to take up the option and that is their choice. There are many on the streets who have a mental health illness, ex servicemen, drinkers, and too many more. The illegals have come here in the belief there is a better life here, sorry there isn't.

[DrFilth]

Starbuckone would the same rules apply to someone who wants a nuclear deterrent
ie, let them have a silo in their back garden.

at this rate i will have 10 illegals on my living room floor and a double decker bus parked in the front garden because i think we should have a public transport service

[emmie]

gromit, surely you read the other posts, as opposed to just sticking your oar in. I said a number of times we should be ashamed that our ex service personnel are sleeping rough, they at least have served this country, paid taxes and are entitled. Some may not like the life mapped out in civvie street, many may have seen unspeakable horrors so turn to drugs, drink, only those in the know, that work with the homeless can see what is going on. Those who go to a country, have no money, no prospects, just make things worse for themselves in the longer term.

[Gromit]

Em10

Considering I had made three posts prior to yours, your very rude suggestion that I am now sticking my oar in, is incorrect.

[emmie]

One of my best friends had been homeless for years, he was an alcoholic and died because of it. He chose the path he took, and no one would have been able to dissuade him to another. Eventually he found a nice flat, but continued the heavy drinking, i couldn't save him from himself, so unless you have a smidgen of knowledge on the subject you just don't know how this can pan out.

[emmie]

you seemed to assume that no one cares out the ex servicemen, and having read the entire thread i am well aware of your other remarks.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

Stop trying to turn this situation into a general attack on all homeless, your heart wrenching diversions will not work, read my first paragraph.

The debate is regarding these illegal immigrants, and nothing more.

Would you care to have a "jungle" camp spring up in Britain, as the French had in Calais?

They haver no legal right to be here and some of us don't want them.

http://www.telegraph....e-immigrant-camp.html

[anotheoldgit]

redhelen

You could always pop down and take a few in, Helen.

/// What would you do to improve your quality of life if you lived in slums in your homeland? ///

Try and get to the only country that is said to welcome you with open arms, provide you and your family with a house, free medical and dental care, and heap a load of cash benefits onto you.

If the streets are not paved with gold as some have found in this case, then pack your bags and move on to a country that will bestow all these gifts upon you.

Enjoy your world wide tour.

[anotheoldgit]

Welcome back em10, i hope you are feeling much better.

[anotheoldgit]

em10

Don't be swayed by Gromit's seemingly overt concern for our servicemen.

If you have read some of his earlier posts, you would notice that he only shows contempt towards them.

[Gromit]

So they are only 'litter' if they are foreign. And don't now pretend to be concerned with homeless ex servicemen, you don't give them a second thought.

[RoganJoshPete]

( I don't see why we should allow these illegal immigrants, to litter our areas )

What a sad person you are to post that

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

/// So they are only 'litter' if they are foreign. And don't now pretend to be concerned with homeless ex servicemen, you don't give them a second thought.///

Who said anything about them being 'litter', I said 'littering our streets', an entirely different thing.

As regards your second unfounded and made-up statement, You have no idea at all, of my feelings towards homeless ex servicemen.

Being an ex-service man myself, (although fortunate enough not to be homeless), I am more likely to have sympathetic feelings towards those ex colleagues who have been less fortunate than myself.

Unlike you who I presume has never donned a uniform of the Armed Forces.

So don't try and brush off your own anti servicemen's views onto others, I am quite aware of your all round anti-Britishness.

[douglas9401]

Can't beat a cat fight in a circular argument.

[anotheoldgit]

redhelen

/// AOG and can I just say you really are the lowest of the low!! ///

That is an abusive slur on myself, and I hope that the ED notices it as such, because isn't it the site's rules "not to be offensive to other site members"?

It is also apparent that those such as you ie 'RoganJoshPete' and 'Gromit', conveniently chose to ignore my third paragraph, regarding "providing humane accommodation for these asylum seekers".

Because then you wouldn't have had the same opportunity to spout your constant abusive venom towards me.

[lcg]

same old tripe helen - he uses inflamatory language and argument to pick at others and sit on his high horse. we all know what aog is like. having been homeless myself, i must confess i do find some of the comments on this thread disgusting. you know who you are - and you should be ashamed of yourselves.