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removal of endorsements from licence

according to the info ive just seen on the DVLA website, a DR10 stays on your licence for 11 years. I am sure that when I got convicted (and learned a harsh lesson) in '98, it could be removed after 10 years. does anyone know if this time limit changed at some point in the last 10 years? I have spent the last 10 years counting down to get this removed, only to find out its gonna be another year.


mandimoo  Wed 16/07/08 08:45
squarebear
Wed 16/07/08
08:47
I'm pretty sure it's 11 years, as there was a radio campaign about it a few weeks ago.
SeaJayPea
Wed 16/07/08
09:40
All endorsements on driving licences have to stay on for a further year afyer they are spent. This means that your DR10 will expire on the 10th anniversary of the conviction, but you can't have it taken off for a further year.

This came in many years ago. People were working the system and delaying court appearances until they could get an endorsement taken off after three years and thereby avoid a ban under 'totting up'. It was clogging up the courts.

Your conviction is definitely 'spent' , though, after 10 years.
R1Geezer
Wed 16/07/08
10:37
seajaypee is talking bollux, the points for an offence are attributed to the date of the offence, it does not matter what date the actual trial is.

The endorsment always stays there for 1 year beyond it's effect. I don't know the purpose though.
SeaJayPea
Wed 16/07/08
19:33
SeaJayPea is not talking anything remotely associated with gonads.

R1Geezer is right, however, it is the date of the offence, not conviction, my mistake, don't know why I put that. But the basis for it still stands.

People were delaying the trial, in some cases for as long as a year, by saying they were going to plead not guilty, demanding that witnesses be brought to court etc. then being 'ill' and unable to attend and so on until their previous endorsements (this pre-dates points) had expired. You then send your licence to DVLA, get the endorsements taken off, turn up in court, plead guilty and, because you now have a clean licence, escape a ban.

That is what was happening, and why the law was changed.

R1geezer needs to get a civil tongue in his head, Shame, really 'cos he normally offers good advice.
R1Geezer
Thurs 17/07/08
09:36
ok seajay, sorry for being a bit blunt but your whole premise seemed wrong. I see what you are getting at now but the effect of the points is just the same as before they just stay visible longer, the totting process is the same so although I see what you are getting at the fact they are still on the licence for a further year cannot effect the totting up process. Sorry if I've mis understood again!
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