My local authority has erected a "work of art" in an area of the countryside where I live. They have provided a car park that is only for use by disabled persons. Are they committing an offence???
chassyp Thurs 08/05/08 13:14
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So what about the less abled able bodied, squarebear?
Why should those people miss out? I'm not talking about lazy ******* that refuse to walk anywhere, I'm talking about the older generatio who simply aren't capable of walking a mile uphill, the families with 3 children under 5 the person who has a partner in a leg cast. Why should THEIR rights be ignored?
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The stars should say b u g g e r s. That's not a profanity, surely?
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Question Author
Is it not discrimination against able bodied.? We have sex discrimination, race discrimination etc!!! Is it not a human right issue?? Does no one have a definitive answer??
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It is not a human rights issue! Where does it say in the human rights act that anybody,whether able bodied or disabled,has a right to view so called works of art? The fault obviously lies with where the council chose to site this art,not the parking facilities(or lack of).
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Yes but in general, abled bodied people are far more capable than disabled at walking up a hill.
If an old person can't walk very well, they should apply for a disabled badge. We did this when my gran was alive but I wouldn't say she was disabled, just had trouble walking.
If there's only room for a certain amount of cars then I firmly believe it should go to the people who need it most which in this case is the disabled.
Imagine they made a space for abled bodied then someone parked their 4x4 in it while someone else who is wheelchair bound had to struggle? Not very fair is it?
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In Scotland, for every 20 car parking spaces you need one disabled space which is clearly marked
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/library2/br/brs-03. asp
Don't think it works in reverse.
On a related note, in my local area, they have just started charging disabled people who park in the multi storey to park their cars in line with all other people.
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Why have you got such a poisonous attitude towards those less fortunate than yourself chassyp? Did an old girlfriend with no legs run off and leave you heartbroken?
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PS The leg offer still stands.
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To those with the intelligence to understand the question, many thanks for the positive input. To those who have made silly remarks, I do feel very sorry for you!!
In the UK we have many thousands of people like myself with disabilities who refuse to be labelled. Scandinavia has a very liberating approach to disability, and encourage integration not segregation. My visit there was very liberating as I was treated as an equal and not given a priority status. This “priority status” In itself can often add towards an individuals disability. I understand about the learned helplessness’ theory, and have seen it in practice. This country often has a very disabling effect people without realising it, sometimes encouraged by both parties as I feel my question has raised in point!
The attitude most people have in the UK towards people with disabilities, and also people with disabilities has to change much more before we can come half way to get to standards in Scandinavia.
There will always be a minority of people with disabilities who refuse any form of social integration, and this should be respected. Not everyone is the same eh?
However I suppose we have come a long way from the workhouses, and social segregation. Remember the good old days before the Community Care Act?? Locked away because of a limp!!
I’ll say tara then.
Thanks for all the positive input, and hope I have raised peoples thoughts and awareness on this matter.
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I am about to go out in my wheelchair with my family,we have to plan our route to avoid hills,that is just the way it is.If you can't accept that the disabled(wheelchair users especially) need car parking spaces more than the able bodied do then you are to be pitied.
Oneeyedvic.I would happily pay car parking fees even though I have a blue badge.
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Your question has not raised a point or provoked debate. The answer was no.
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To be honest, I think this whole thread is a wind-up and the poster is having a laugh at our expense.
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I think this question is still being over analysed. Chassyp wasn't in any way saying that anyone disabled doesn't deserve the conveniece of the parking provided, merely raising a question. At least thats how I read it!
Why is the sky blue?
...I wasn't saying it should be black or anything I just wondered!!
Answerbank's meant to be a tool to enable us to ask the little questions that cross our minds; this question is no different - theres no opinion being expressed, just a query raised.
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