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Is he using one of the food banks?
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Question Author
Don't think so - nothing to do with food.
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Oh, O.K.
Perhaps you need to be more specific.
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Is it someone picking up stuff from Freecycle then selling it?
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Question Author
No need to be more specific - goods are being obtained by deception. He would not be given these goods if it wasn't for his lies in the first place.
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if it's a freecycle type thing, i don't think there is anything you can do - the community ethos is that you dont sell things, but you dont apply for them by signing something saying you are deffo not going to sell them i guess. fc ASK you not to sell stuff, not make it part of the contract
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You do need to be more specific. Is he getting the goods from individuals via freegle, freecycle or similar; or from an organisation such as the council or a charity?
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As above, we can not comment unless we know how the goods are being obtained. Is he getting stuff from charites and selling it? Is he just telling people a 'hard luck' story to get things donated to him? The exact way he is getting the stuff and what it is will determin if it is legal or not.
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your post is very vague. you need give details because the law is that vague nor is it a blanket rule
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report him to the police if you don't like what he's doing. if there's a crime, they'll find it....
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Question Author
Yes, it's Freecycle.
He's asking for bicycles claiming for all sorts of reasons like kitting his friends out so they can go out riding. What he's actually doing is getting bikes and selling them online via various outlets.
People are passing on items out of goodwill for them to be used within the community and many get annoyed when things are sold on.
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Can you let the freecycle moderators know? Would they be able to stop him posting?
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As the goods being given to this person, then as a "business" user, they are classed as "goods in kind", and IMO Trading Standards may be interested in your concerns. Perhaps, if you feel so strongly about this, then give them a call, and ask their advice. There may be a case for checking the use of charitable goods being sold fraudulently with TS.
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Question Author
Thank-you.
I am actually the owner of the Freecycle group in question.
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How do you know he is selling them?
As far as I know the purpose of Freecycle is to keep items out of landfill, not specifically to give the goods to what the donor perceives to be a 'charity case', or the needy. After all, it is easy enough to donate unwanted goods to a charity shop. I have used Freecycle a lot and at no time have I had to state I was in need.
This is from Freecycle's home page:
"Freecycle groups match people who have things they want to get rid of with people who can use them. Our goal is to keep usable items out of landfills."
However, as you are the administrator of the group I assume you can ban him from using it.
If you have evidence he is buying to sell, send that evidence to the Inland Revenue. He may well be declaring it, who knows?
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Sorry, not buying to sell but obtaining goods to sell for profit.
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as far as i can see, the title of said bike passes to him when the owner gives it to him. The previous owner cannot then specify what he does with them
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I know very well that ownership passes to him that is nowhere near the point.
The point is that he is obtaining these items through deceit. Many members have expressed their anger over the years where they've given items to people only to see them being sold on at places like car boot sales, shops etc.
Why does no-one seem to be able to read the damn question properly?
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We can read the damn questions properly.
Does he use 'wanted' posts and give a sob story, or does he just reply to the 'offered'?
Do you know for a fact he doesn't donate the proceeds to charity?
I can't see him being prosecuted for obtaining a pecuniary advantage by deception because the donor hasn't suffered a loss. He intended giving the goods away.
For the same reason he hasn't stolen the goods - they have been given to him freely. It would be impossible to pass title to goods with a condition that the goods never be sold.
I think you have missed the point of Freecycle. It is not intended to benefit the poor or needy, its real purpose is to keep goods out of the landfill.
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Is it actually against the principle of Freecycle for people to sell the things they gain? What's the difference between Freecycle, and the old habit of people picking up items from the tip and taking them home?
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