Irish hunger strike

[tinkerbell23]

Can someone explain the whos and whys of this to me!?

VERY SIMPLY lol

I did read wikipedia........

I find the politics difficult

Reason is i know many who are passionate about this and i would like to understand!!!

As i say...simply please!!! X

[MarkRae]

Hi Tinks,

Can you be more precise, please? Are you referring to the hunger strikes of people like Bobby Sands et al in the Maze prison in the early 80s? If so, what do you want to know...?

[ummmm]

What would you like to know?

They were all IRA prisoners. Because they believed they were 'political' prisoners they didn't want to conform to 'normal' prison rule. They then went on hunger strike as their demands were not met. Bobby Sands was elected MP while on hunger strike. When this happened they thought that Margaret Thatcher would bow to their requests...she didn't, that lady is not for turning.

[tinkerbell23]

Yes 70/80s bloody sunday too

Just why? And what happened...and the "hate" some
Have for brit army, maggie thatcher etc!

In easy speak...(tinkerbell terms!!)

What happened? And why! X

[sandyRoe]

Early on in The Troubles convicted prisoners who had committed certain types of crime, political crime, were granted 'political status' while serving their sentence.
Thatcher took that away from them and some went on hunger strike in an attempt to have it restored.

[ummmm]

Listen to this song Tinks.....it explains it better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxLQfcde18U

[tinkerbell23]

Thanks ummm i kind of know...

Think i hav to learn diff between types of prisoners x

[MarkRae]

Well, Bloody Sunday was quite different from the hunger strikes, though all part of the same history of course.

I understand that you want a simple reply, but this is a complex and sensitive topic and doesn't warrant trivialisation nor does it lend itself easily to simplification.

I suggest you read this: Amazon.co.uk User Recommendation

[sandyRoe]

The hunger strikers weren't all IRA prisoners. Three were INLA members.

[tinkerbell23]

Ive ordered dvd recommended by friends....will look mark thank


And will listen ummm! Thanks

Im not politically minded x

[ummmm]

VERY SIMPLE, Sandy

[sandyRoe]

And when some of the Republican hunger strikers were near deaths door the Loyalists started one too. Their idea being that if the Republicans were to win their demands they should get the same privileges too.

[tinkerbell23]

So sad ummm x

[ummmm]

Very sad, Tinks....

[tinkerbell23]

Didnt know that sandy.

Ok.... So in "tinkerbell terms"

These men- bobby sands etc
Were jailed
Prisoners of war
But treated as criminals
Demanded to have 5 rights
Maggie denied
Riots broke out
People hate her for not giving in (amongst other things?)

Yes?


Bloody sunday- the brit army were called in to help stop riots, they shot whoever they felt like and effectively murdered 13 men? X

[craft1948]

"they shot whoever they felt like".................eh?

[MarkRae]

Political prisoners, Tinks, not prisoners of war.

http://www.bobbysands...ia/hunger-strike-book

[ummmm]

NO Tinks....they were terrorists.

I was brought up sympathising with them....but they were terrorists.

[ummmm]

Have you watched this film??

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107207/

[tinkerbell23]

Ah ok....political prisoners.....

I read what the men were all jailed for...

Craft i read on wiki that the british shot 13 unarmed men and that an apology was issued and it was murder?

Not my personal opinion i read it....i could be picking it up wrong hence my asking?

Tink x

[tinkerbell23]

I have ummm but so long ago i dont remember....

So i have ordered it plus another (ive been to kilmainam jail but thts irellevant) lol

So the men who were shot were terrorists?

Or boby sands et al were terrorists? X