Names Of The Apostles

[beso]

From the AB jokes section:

According to the Bible, Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Palestine. A country where people are named Mohammed, Abdul, Mounir, Aziz, Ahmed, Farid, Omar, Youssouf, Mouloud, etc.
And yet He managed to find 12 friends called John, Peter, Paul, Phillip, Mark, Thomas, Luke, Matthew, Andrew and Simon . . . who all drank wine!
Now that's what I call a miracle !!

Yet many people believe the Bible to be the truth. Perhaps one of them can explain how these middle eastern people had western names.

[THECORBYLOON]

What is wrong with their drinking wine?

[Buenchico]

The Bible was written largely in Greek (with some Aramaic). When it was translated, equivalent English names were substituted.
http://www.christianforums.com/threads/real-names-of-apostles.1461201/

[Buenchico]

The Hadith records that the prophet Muhammad both drank wine and (in the absence of water) washed himself with it. The Qur'an records that he initially seemed to approve of its consumption. ("And of the fruit of palm-trees, and of grapes, ye obtain an inebriating liquor, and also good nourishment"). However he later changed his view: "O true believers! surely wine and maisir and stone pillars and divining arrows, are an abomination, of the work of Satan, therefore avoid them, that ye may prosper."

[Togo]

Must have met the Salvation Army Buen.

[Jackdaw33]

Bethlehem was not in Palestine but Judaea, not that it makes much difference.

[Clanad]

In addition to Chris' usual astute response it's important to realize that the name Mohammed, etc., being of Islamic persuasion could not have developed until after Islam was developed. That development, to it's fullest extent did not occur until the death of the Prophet June 8, 632AD.

It is safe to say there exists the possibility that children were named in his honor somewhat before his death.

Greek, along with Aramaic was the lingua franca of the middle east (as we know it today)from about 540BC to as late as 79BC while Greek emerged as the result of Alexander the III of Macedon's conquests of the area around 332BC.

All of this is said to substantiate that the Greek (or Aramaic) names translated into English in 1611 would not only be reasonable but also to be expected...

[retrocop]

//THECORBYLOON
What is wrong with their drinking wine?//

Well most of the blokes down the Boiler Makers Arms who answer to John, Peter, Paul, Phillip, Mark, Thomas, Luke, Matthew, Andrew and Simon . would put Musthafa Shiat out horizontal if he offered them a wine :-)

[birdie1971]

THECORBYLOON - "What is wrong with their drinking wine?"

Congratulations on spectacularly missing the point of the question. And first in too. Double congrats!

[Mosaic]

Like others have said, the names now used are versions of versions.
They'd have known each other as Shimon, Yakov, Yochanan, Mattityahu, Tauma / Theudas (one Hebrew, one Aramic version), Yehuda and of course Joshus / Yehoshua Ben Yosef
Interestingly Filipos and Andrea must have been from Greekified families as they don't have Hebrew or Aramaic equivalents.
Variants on these names were absorbed into Arabic in the Islamic world afetr 632, as Clanad has pointed out, and into Christianised western cultures.

[beso]

Clanad//it's important to realize that the name Mohammed, etc., being of Islamic persuasion could not have developed until after Islam was developed.//

So the prophet's name could not have been Mohamed because it didn't develop until Islam? Think about it.

[Jackdaw33]

You can forget Paul, Mark and Luke; they came along later.

[Baldric]

Is immigration innit!

[EDDIE51]

beso, the Prophets name was Mohammed , so when he died his followers became 'Mohammedians' or 'followers of Mohammed' In the same way that followers of Christ became 'Christians'. It was only centuries later that the terms Muslim and Islam were used. So it is your post that does not make sense.

[jomifl]

The Arab diaspora took place a long time after the apostles were extant, so they would hardly have had arabic names possibly Jewish names though.

[Auxarcs]

Recall those are generally Muslim or Arab names. There were many people groups in those areas and they didnt all have the same names. Also those names you listed are all very modern names. Recall also Jesus and the majority of his followers were Jews, who had their own name traditions. Recall also that the world at that tome was HEAVILY influenced by Rome who governened and controled mich of the known world. Recall also that Bibles today are in English and so obviously use English translations of names and words. Use of a different language doesnt make it a book a lie. Original copies of the works we now call the Bible were in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek depending on which book you are talking about. Obviously in those languages the names would have been written in those languages. In the orthodox Jewish bible the gospels are Mattityehu, Markos, Lukos, Yochanan. Joseph and Mary are Yosef and Miryam. And Jesus is Yehoshua.
A differt language does not make a lie.

[beso]

Eddie //It was only centuries later that the terms Muslim and Islam were used. So it is your post that does not make sense.//

If you read my post in context and noted I was questioning (hence the question mark) Clanard's suggestion then you would see I was not saying what you assumed.