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what is the bird?

I live in a village in nottinghamshire and my cats have brought in 3 dead fledglings over the last month. The fedglings are big, about 10 cm long, are covered in ginger almost orange down apart from their faces, had no evidence of feather development, They had almost black faces and beaks, beaks were straight, blunt, and deep with a prominent groove in the upper element. The feet were skin-pink, and the toes thick. What might they have been?

geoffers47 Sun 13/07/08 15:08

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abstract
Sun 13/07/08
15:10

not sure but it seems there might be an easy accessable low lying nest near you!

terambulan
Sun 13/07/08
16:26

Put big bells on your cats or lock them up during the fledge season.....especially as the cats are not hungry but killing for the sake of it.

geoffers47
Sun 13/07/08
17:10

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quite how bells can warn fledglings remains a mystery to me.

sddsddean
Sun 13/07/08
17:16

Only thing I could think of that is 'ginger', might be a Jay. Does this look anything close
http://www.arkive.org/species/ARK/birds/Garrul us_glandarius/ARK013254.html?offset=0px

geoffers47
Sun 13/07/08
18:37

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Very interesting suggestion but I don't think it was a jay judging by the pics. There were no wing feathers forming and there was no evidence of any dark colouring of the down. Also the crown of the head was covered in down.
The only big birds I've seen around here are rooks, it may sound silly, but what does very young rooks look like?

Thanks anyway for your help "sddsddean"

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